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New project anoucned GoldeneyeWolfenstein. If no
one knows what that is. Its a James Bonde Movie
complete conversion...status bar title screen characters I
will port the levels and characters as good as I can,
the source will be fonomminal.

Spread the word that the "Die Hard Wolfers" are
alive and well on Yahoo. This is a club where everyone
is free to join. The only rules are no Flames and No
Foul Language. Try to keep things Wolfenstein
Related.<br><br>Discuss Wolfenstein or games that utilized the
Wolfenstein Engine, your favorite add-on, favorite
conversion, or participate in group projects and help in
creating new add-ons and TC's.<br><br>Group projects can
be anything from simple gamemap conversions to vswap
additions to complete and total conversions. <br><br>Have
fun and Enjoy the new club... <br>Let's make this the
Best Wolfenstein Club on Yahoo!

A Yahoo club should replace that crappy board BUT
I think either Scott or Viktor should have created
it, NOT just a regular RW member....I think you
should have talked to Scott before you did all
this...<br><br>-Kenny

Well hopefully we'll get better hits. The only
way this'll get popular though is by posting regular,
so post and support.<br><br>Hopefully Scott won't
kill anyone, but he can't access Yahoo! stuff, so
...<br><br><br>@Luke: Hi again<br><br>-Ian

There's already a GoldenEye game, isn't there?<br><br>Oh well...there was already a Doomenstein game, yet AreyeP's WolfenDOOM was kewl...<br><br>Good luck. Need help, ask.<br><br>-Ian

How about we all start fresh all over again.

Someonemade like 2 levels for wolf3d and goldeneye but not a complete conversion so.  If I can't call it goldeneye/wolfenstein then I will call it goldenstein

Someone made like 2 levels for wolf3d and goldeneye but not a complete conversion so.  If I can't call it goldeneye/wolfenstein then I will call it goldenstein

AREYP was the author of the original WolfenDOOM, he just did a facelift on it.<br><br>-Kenny

Does that mean I can still make a goldeneye wolfenstein converation?  Cause it will be nothing like the other one I swear.  even if I have to change the name

I think the original moderators(like at the one at bytecenter) should be made founders.<br><br>Whaddaya say?<br><br>Tristan

For now... No... I will create other founders in
the future... but they will have to prove that they
aren't in it for power, that they can take critisism and
that they won't be spitefull when things don't go
their way. I don't think that it's positive if someone
deletes a member because they don't like something
they've said or done. I didn't like seeing the fighting
in other clubs and message areas so Die Hard Wolfers
was formed.. Anyone may join... <br><br>As for
turning it over to the others that founded RW (Real
Wolfers for those not in the loop) This isn't real
wolfers. RW is still alive and for those that enjoy the
fighting will hopefully be there for sometime to come, but
I'm tired of being a member one minute and not the
next because someone throws a tempertantrum. Everyone
kept saying they wanted an open club, yet no-one did
anything about it. Well, here it is... <br><br>The rules
are simple:<br><br>No Flames<br>No Foul
Language<br><br>and not so much of a rule but more of a
guidline:<br><br>Try to stay on Topic: ie: Related to Wolfenstein and
the Wolf engine... <br><br>I hope you all can respect
that.

Hi all :)<br><br>This is the 5th Wolf club I have
in my favourites listings now. Hope it goes well :)
I'll be checking it regularly to see what's
happening.<br><br>Take care all, and cyas for now,<br><br>Steve

I think a club picture above the founders message would be nice...<br><br>-Kenny

The original Goldeneye was by Robb (from Baltimore). This set is still available at <a href=http://www.belowe.com/gldeye.zip target=new>http://www.belowe.com/gldeye.zip</a><br>It needs the registered set to play.

9 members in one day...impressive...<br><br>I had
my doubts, and to an extent still do, that this
club'll survive...I hope I can eat my words,
lol...<br><br>Another thing, Greg offered I make the official page for
DHW. If anyone agrees or thinks they can do better,
say your opinion.<br><br>Things are slow here, so I
might actually suggest someone else did it rather than
wait for me forever :)<br><br>-Ian

I posted one... But if you've got something better feel free to send it to me or put it in the albums and I'll link it.<br><br>The more help, the better... <br><br>Greg

I have already started on the graphics for the
game. Trevalyan graphics are started the pp7 is done
already. I am doind the graphics first for the game then
going into the source and maps. I post screen shots
asoon as possible.

hey guys im a new member of this club. my name is sam chiang

Welcome to the club... <br><br>I hope you enjoy
your stay here and if you have any questions, feel
free to ask. If we have the answers, I'm sure one of
the members will respond<br>politely and promptly...
<br><br>Greg

What do you think about having a weekly Wolf chat
on say an IRC server?<br><br>Would you prefer a
weekday or weekend?<br>What time should it be
held?<br>Where (on which server) should it be held?<br><br>Post
your answers here and lets get it set
up...<br><br>Greg

Sure that will be great! but it depends on where you live and what time zone youre in.

I think the weekend would be nice. I'm sometimes not available on weekdays. <br><br>The time and server... I dunno

It's gonna be difficult to get a time to suit everybody, but I'd prefer the weekend.

Thanks for the invitation in letting me join the
club.<br><br>I will post more about my old TC / Addon
"Rockenstein". I am still in the process of working on it
<for the past 5 months>.<br><br><br>-Leo

Not a problem there Leo... Glad to see you made
it and Hope you enjoy the Club. Good to hear that
Rockenstein hasn't fallen by the wayside... But I know what
you mean with the timeline. Been working on mine for
about as long, maybe a little longer. <br><br>I've
managed to add quite a few things but my best achievement
is getting the secret level to work from wherever
floor it's access point is coded in the maps... That's
right.. No more hard coded Secret Levels.... <br><br>Hope
to release a version of mine soon. More details will
follow...

Weekends are good for me. My time zone is Central Standard Time so I hope to be able to catch some of you then. <br><br>-Ian

I noticed that there was a section for public
domain graphics / sprites in Photos. I'd love to
contribute some work there for anyone else to use, so I'll
see about getting to work on a few graphics some time
:)<br><br>Ian

Excelent Ian... <br><br>I've seen your work and
I'm sure that anything that you aren't going to use
for your own stuff would be greatfully accepted by
those in need. <br><br>If anyone needs help with
programming... I'm always available with ideas and possible
solutions. I'm not the greatest coder in c++ yet, but I do
have the logic side of it down from programming in
other languages.<br><br>Greg

One guard complete and Ourumov complete.  Started working on other guards and James Bond.

I have just joined this club.<br>My name is Daniel you may know me from:<br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html. target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html.</a><br><br>:)Daniel:)

Welcome aboard... <br><br>Tried to go to your page and see what it was like but the link you provided gives a 404 error (page not found).<br><br>anyhow, enjoy your stay.<br><br>Greg

Try this<br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>

Thanks for the update there Schabbs. <br><br>Nice page...  and thanks for listing our club in your news page.<br><br>Greg

Hey can't wait till it comes out!<br>Did u know
that there's a Goldeneye/Doom2? <br>download it at:
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/wario_81/gold.htm target=new>http://www.geocities.com/wario_81/gold.htm</a><br>needs the full version of Doom2 to play.<br><br>u can
get ideas from it.

hey dan,<br>finally joined a wolf3d club eh?

After a few months of thought I have decided that
I am gonna re-start WolfEx for the last time. If it
doesn't turn out the way I want it to this time, I'm
gonna stop that idea and focus completely on my
Half-Life to Wolf3d add-on.<br><br>I'll send everyone the
BETA when I'm done it.

<EOM>

Hi all, <br><br>I still have some antique gfx laying around from TFS(which was Return to Castle Erlangen back then). I'll upload them this weekend.<br><br>OK?<br><br>Tristan.

Well, <br><br>So far it looks like most people
would like a chat to take place on weekends.... And
also to allow for time differences... <br><br>So..
Would Saturday or Sunday be best for
most?<br><br><br>Suggested time based on a common hour:<br><br> Canadian
Eastern Time: 5:00pm<br> British Time: 10:00pm<br>
Central Time: 3:00pm <br> WestCoast Time:
2:00pm<br><br>Tell me what you think?<br><br>Greg

yeah, i totally agree with you. actually, you should have a chat taking place in both Saturday and Sunday. just tell us what time its going to start.

What about Australian Time. It is 5:45 PM here know.<br><br><br><br>Daniel

At 5:45pm there it is 1:45am here... <br><br>So
the time difference is 8 hours in Australia from
Eastern Time in Canada.<br><br>Give me the day to work
out the where and the time logistics, so that all can
participate.<br><br>Greg

Happy Birthday to me....hehehe

Happy Birthday Luke... <br><br>And on March 9th, you can return the favor as it's my birthday... lol... Have a good one.. <br><br>Greg

'Half Way' is a new set for Wolf 3D being done by
Harry Mass Senior. There are some new source code
changes and changed wall designs. I don't know at this
stage how many new levels there will be.<br><br>There's
a set of 4 screenshots on my news page
at<br><a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a><br><br>Brian.

Fine with me. Let's have a chatta!<br><br>Tristan

I set my watch! this is gonna be a good chat!

Get to know your fellow members in chat. We can
chat in one of two places <br><br>1) Internal Yahoo
Chat<br>2) Any Dalnet Server (channel is
#diehardwolfers)<br><br><br>Which shall it be?<br><br>The time:
<br><br>NorthAmerican EST 5:00pm (Saturday) <br>NorthAmerican PST
2:00pm (Saturday)<br>Britain 10:00pm
(Saturday)<br>Australia 8:00am (Sunday Morning)<br><br>If I figgured out
the timezones properly, then we should all be able to
meet at the above listed times for your area. (Let's
hope I got it right).<br><br>For those timezones that
I haven't listed, please let me know where your
zone fits into the chat time and I'll add it to the
list. <br><br>Hope to see all of you there!<br><br>Greg

This is a new 10 level set by Harry Mass Senior.
It has two new keys, plus other source code changes.
The secret level is accessed from level four. There
are also a number of new wall designs. The game is
fast moving and difficult. You can access it from my
news page
on<br><a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a><br><br>Brian.

How do u make over 5 weapons?  The abonorml program terminatio gets in the way.

Hi all,<br><br>I was wondering, how many Wolf
fans out there have the original hint books for Wolf
and SOD? After seeing some level maps on Daniel's
Wolf3D page (<a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>), I
thought he had a good idea there, and dug out my old
manuals and hint books which have a wealth of interesting
anecdotes, maps etc from the Id crew on these two games
(they used a capital I in id back then). <br><br>Of
course everyone can view the maps with Mapedit/Floedit,
but it would be interesting if the stuff in these now
unavailable hint books could somehow be made available on a
web site. It'd require a little bit of typing, or
scanning if anyone wanted to display the maps in the way
they are in the books.<br><br>If anyone's interested,
let me know. I've asked Daniel from Daniel's Wolf
site if he wants me to send him a copy, and if anyone
wants to seriously undertake such a project then I will
be happy to send a copy their way (can only do it
for one person though as postage cost would be
prohibitive otherwise).<br><br>Steve

Steve,<br><br>I'd be more than interested... In
fact if you send them I'll help with the postage. That
would be a great addition to the upcomming "Die Hard
Wolfers Homepage"....<br><br>Let me know here or E-mail
me at "brothertank@..." and I'll get the
address and information from you.<br><br>Greg

I need major help on the source code on my
upcoming set: The Matrix. My source code editer can't work
on my computer. Ive tried everything, including
downloading another one. But it just can't work, for some
reason. I need to do some source code changes on the
Matrix, So if anyone would be willing to help me or give
me any hints please e-mail me at:
selong_chiang@...<br><br>sam

Come on in... the Chat room is open and waiting..

Well... <br><br>We tried... <br><br>I noticed
that a few people showed up, and then a few more after
I'd gone for dinner (did that Chinese food thing for
my birthday). Thanks to those that showed up. I only
wish I'd been around a little longer to chat.
<br><br>3 of us chatted about the new game just released on
Schabbs Site. From the looks of it, and what we were able
to play so far... Pretty good... <br><br>I've posted
the Chat in the Calendar as a weekly event. Hopefully
more people will be able to attend. Help me out with
the timezone thing though, as I'm not sure if I have
it right... <br><br>EST = Eastern Standard Time
(Canada & US)<br>Britain is 5 hours ahead of
EST<br>Australia is 15 hours ahead EST<br>Central time (US&Canada)
is 1 hour behind EST<br>Pacific Time (US&Canada) is
3 hours behind EST<br><br>So, If I have this right,
when it's 5pm EST here, then it is 10pm in Britain,
4pm in Central, 2pm Pacific, and 8am the next morning
in Australia.<br><br>If I haven't listed your Zone,
please post a message or send me an e-mail so I can list
the common time for chat in all zones...
<br><br>Thanks Again.. and hopefully see you all next
week!<br><br>Next Weeks Topic: Meeting the Members and Rating some
of the releases for Wolf3d so far... <br><br>Greg

'The Master' has an online guide based on the hint books. It's at<br><a href=http://wolf3d.gamehosts.com/guide/ target=new>http://wolf3d.gamehosts.com/guide/</a>

My wolf3d days could be coming to an end for along peroid of time.  I am not sure yet though. if u want to catch me on msn-boytoy_east@... or icq-86016430.

Hey Greg...I tried to join in, but due to my slow
connection there was terrible lag. Hopefully next time,
though (ISP has also been a little messy lately at
certain times).<br><br>Cu all there hopefully
=)<br><br>-Ian

And that's why Cable or DSL are worth every cent!

#1 Not available in my area<br>#2 Even if it was,
my family doesn't own this house so it cancels it
out<br>#3 I'm dirt poor<br>#4 Shut up you rich spoiled
#$@!##@!!!! lol ;) j/k<br><br>Starting to feel just like
RealWolfers now, huh? :)<br><br>-Ian

Does anyone know where I could find a Corridor 7, Blake Stone, or Body Count gfx editor ?

Leo,<br><br>They don't exist as far as I know
(oddly). It *is* possible to use FloEdit to extract
BlakeStone graphics, but the palette is totally wrong and
the graphics are useless. Importing: same deal...the
palette screws up the graphics you import. I'm working on
a solution, but someone who knows more of how the
palettes work and hex editing is most likely who you
need.<br><br>Greg told me it was possible to export sounds from
Blake Stone and they are of fairly nice quality, maybe
that is possible for other games. Gfx? We're still
searching...:) You could try using iGrab, but I have no clue as
to how to use it (ne1?)<br><br>Good luck,<br>Ian

ah the memories...... <br><br>although in RW it would be "Shut up you rich spoiled #$@!##@!!!! lol ;) j/k" without the lol ;) j/k!! <br><br>cya later you dirt poor #$@!##@!!!! j/k ;)

hehe, ok lets break up the fight! :) lol

Hey I need an UNcompressed copy of shareware, or
full version of Blake Stone, IT MUST BE uncompressed!
the compressed exe. installer file is giving me
Runtime errors, so please send the files zipped, or
unzipped.<br><br>please, don't send it via email, I don't have any that
will support large file uploads, if you have a site,
please post it there, and give me the link, I will
contact you to delete it after I have downloaded the
files.<br><br>thanks in advance.<br><br>-Leo

I missed the chat - I finished night shift at
8.30 am Sunday morning, and was driving home.<br><br>I
take it the chat is via the chat option from the menu
options on the left hand column?<br><br>Steve

Thanx for that info Brian - I checked out The Master's guide from that link you gave - quite a comprehensive guide!

We used the chat link on the side AND a chat room in mIRC. It doesn't really matter if you don't have mIRC though.

This is a new set by DTrade. There's 9 new
levels, plus the secret level. There are also a number of
graphics and other changes. As with DTrade's earlier sets,
it's difficult with a lot of pushwalls.<br><br>You can
get it from my newspage on
<br><a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a><br><br>Brian.

We (The Eat At Joes team) is working on a hint
book project. We will be scanning every page out of
all SOD books and posting them.<br><br>Hint Book Page
(only 2 done so
far)<br>www.geocities.com/dasfooz/images/hintbook/open.html<br>Note- The final scans will be better<br><br>EAJ Home
Page<br>www.angelfire.com/oh3/eatatjoes

like I said at the lwd board, keep up the good work!

Castle Wolfenstein has been deleted. It WILL be
back up in a few months on a new server with a lot
more content, so look for it soon. <br><br>Again it
will come around later on. Thanks for your
patience.<br><br>-Ian<br>Webmaster, Castle Wolfenstein

Greg, I posted the 'Robocop 4' set on my server. You can get it at <a href=http://www.belowe.com/robobeta.zip target=new>http://www.belowe.com/robobeta.zip</a><br><br>Brian.

I finally have Yahoo! Messenger. If anyone wants
to add me, feel free.<br><br>On other news, I
haven't done much for the pub. domain graphics yet due to
a busy schedule. I'll keep you all posted when it's
going good :)<br><br>-Ian

Okay then. I've added some junk in the Public
domain section. It's a modified Hans Grosse(red instead
of blue) and some home-made wall panels(from 2
months ago). They suck, but maybe now some others will
start contributing too!<br><br>Tristan

Thanks for posting the graphics Tristan....
<br><br>I hope more people will contribute to them
too.<br>I have downloaded a set that dla_one had released
but I have to cut each one from the sheet and then
upload them. I was also going to upload the ones that
were going to be used for Rott, but then discarded...
<br><br>Greg

Thanks Brian, <br><br>I got it, plus I think I
got the others that you mentioned... Hitler12.zip and
the other new one.<br><br>Makes my collection
complete again.. :)<br><br>Appreciate the updates... And
I'm sure the members do too.. <br><br>Greg

I liked the graphics :) Keep it up, I should have some maybe by this weekend or the next.<br><br>-Ian

Thanks! Didn't take much time, tho ;). Had them
all done within 3 hours. The Hans was done within 2
hours; all I had to do was cut Hans's suit out of the
images, give the back a white color and alter the hue
from blue to red(+100) with PSP4.<br><br>Thanks again.
I'll have a go with the elevator stuff too. I'dlove to
see what you can spare ;D. <br><br>Send somethin' my
way too -- if you want.<br><br>TrIzZy

Thanks for the comments. Say, if you still want
to figure out when to chat, here's a good thing:
<br><br><a href=http://www.timeanddate.com target=new>http://www.timeanddate.com</a><br><br>First, ask everyone to post their place of
residence(mine's Rotterdam BTW). Then you can select all these at
the Personal World Clock and you'll be able to see
what time it is where and when. Hope that
helps.<br><br>Second, I'm working on a new logo for Die Hard Wolfers.
If you don't mind, I'll post it soon. It has a
dragon on it with the text "Die Hard Wolfers: The
UlTiMaTe HiDeOuT!". Maybe you want it?<br><br>Tristan

Hi all,<br><br>I didn't realise there was a
public domain gfx area - where abouts do I find
it?<br><br>I plan to make all my own gfx freely available
after MCS and I have finished SOD2. Actually, I was
going to use my own site as a "library" for
them.<br><br>Tristan tells me your gfx work is pretty good Ian - but
to be honest I don't think I've seen any. What add
ons etc have you made (Giftkrieg hasn't been
finished,has it)?<br><br>Take care all,<br><br>Steve

Hi Steve. Are you on now? If so, mail me. We've got some things to discuss ;D

Hi<br>I also would like to know how to fin the
public domain graphics. It sounds like a good idea and
might contributed some of my work.<br>None of you
probably know me, I am a newbie but you can check out some
information on my TC, The Undercover Missions at
www.castlewolfenstein.cjb.net<br>Quinnsey

Click on 'photos' from the left strip. You can put stuff into the albums already there, or create a new one.

in Ian ,just click on Photos and you will see all the graphics. you can either view all the pic or you could upload them yourself.<br>-sam

hi Ian ,just click on Photos and you will see all the graphics. you can either view all the pic or you could upload them yourself.<br>-sam

Thanks Sam and Brian. I might upload some stuff tonight.<br>Ian

Hi Ian, just to let you know, I've put a link to your site from my links page.<br><br><a href=http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/links.htm target=new>http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/links.htm</a><br><br>Brian.

Damn! Chat room won't work from work here!
Firewall error pops up. Oh well, maybe from home one day
:)<br><br>The email I received said 0900am Aus time for the
chat, but I can only see Quinnsey as being online right
now, and can't even send him a hello due to this
firewall prob.<br><br>Anyway, I'll check back
later.<br><br>Take care all<br><br>Steve

Thanks Brian. Although my websites not really
worth it, its so rubbish. <br>For anyone whos
interested The Undercover Missions will be completed by
May.<br>I will probably need BETA testers soon.<br>Ian

Hi Steve, I think the chat was meant for Saturday night (UK/USA time), which would be early Sunday morning in Australia. That's when it happened last week. <br><br>Brian.

That's exactly right Brian... I checked with the
world clock site that Tristan was nice enough to give
me and it listed the times as I sent out in the
e-mail... Saturday for UK, Rotterdam, Canada, Usa, and
Sunday for Moscow, Singapore, Australia, and New
Zealand... <br><br>We can move the chat to an IRC server if
Steve can't get to the chat via the site. I have got a
channel registered on the dalnet server called
DieHardWolfers... So... we can always do the chat there to include
everyone.. <br><br>Let me know what the group concensus
is... <br><br>Greg

Cool, now there's two of me ;)<br><br>See you around, Ian #2!<br><br>-Ian #1 :) :)

Actually I'd canceled Giftkrieg as a project
because I didn't like where it was going. However I am
working on a new project which is going to be fairly
small and will actually be released (and much better
than where GK was progressing) :) I'm focusing
primarily on graphics now, but not many have been made due
to time constraints. Giftkrieg was just going all
over and not in the direction I wanted exactly
:)<br><br>Once I make a few more graphics, I'll send you a few
as a preview to show you what I can do. I've started
using some better programs lately and they are helping
a lot (currently I have one sort of "basement" wall
I made that I am in love with :).<br><br>-Ian

hey ian (#2):)<br>i would love to be a beta testa for ya tc!<br>just tell me what to do.<br><br>-sam

Actually, don't go to that trouble, Greg - I
think the net connection at work has a number of
restrictions due to the company's firewall. Any chat programs
(eg: ICQ etc) won't run. But who am I to complain? At
least I can access the net from work :)<br><br>Thanks
also Brian - yep, I forgot to look down the list where
it said "Sunday" in Aus :) I'll be at work starting
8.30am Sunday (I'm a shift worker), which btw is Eastern
Standard time (daylight saving ends tonight which means we
"go back" one hour) - I'll give the chat one more go,
but don't think I'll have any luck.<br><br>Them's the
breaks I guess :)<br><br>Take care all,<br>Steve

Sounds good Ian :)<br><br>Once MCS and I have finished SOD 2, I was planning to do similar to what you plan ie: focus on graphics. I'd love to see your work!<br><br>Steve

I've been here for an hour now. And who's here?
No living
soul.<br><br>DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!<br><br>I stayed up all night watching silly programs just
not to fall asleep for this event. For what?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODYYYYYYYYYYYYY!<br><br>I'm really
PIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEDDDDDDD!<br><br>Tristan

OH MAN!!!! I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT
IT!!!<br><br>I'M REALLY SORRY MAN!!!! I'm usually always there but
today I was working on my site and some WolfEx code and
I totally forgot about the date and
time!<br><br>I'll be there next week for sure! 100% chance this
time!

Wow, What a great chat that was... Looks like
Tristan was an hour too early. Thanks to all the members
that showed up and participated. I hope to see you all
again next week. <br><br>What did we chat about...
Well, lets see... We kept MCS drinking and chatting
long into the early morning (his time 4:00am) and he
was nice enough to share alot of his programming
secrets. For those that would like to see the chat log...
So would I... Yahoo doesn't let you keep one.. :(
but the information that he gave was more than
valuable.... <br><br>Thanks to Schabbs, Maximuspig, Quinn,
Andy, Areyep and all the others... good chatting with
you and lets do it again... same time next
week...<br><br>Now it's off to see if I can use any of the stuff MCS
talked about... I'm sure I can... :) <br><br>Greg

I finally started working on the new code for
WolfEx!!! (100x revised)<br><br>I've only completed a few
things in the code right now (bug fixes that make the TC
look better)<br>(I can't believe that I missed the
chat because of it!!)<br><br>Thanks goes out to Ian
(quinnsey) for getting the title screen for me :) I haven't
started editing it yet but when I'm done I'll post it on
the net for all to see.<br><br>PS. Does anyone from
RW remember what the URL for my old title page
screen shot was? (If you can you're some sort of freak,
but It would be nice if you did anyway)<br><br>thanks
again and cya later <br>~CHAD~

Greg! the error wasn't because of my coding after
all! <br>I got new code and restarted the project.
Before I started ANYTHING, I played the level and the
error appeared! I think it has something to do with the
new VGA files that I have. <br><br>If anyone has the
new VGA files (and know that they work and don't
crash on lv3) PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME!<br><br>you can
send them to allard@... OR send them to me when
you're on messenger (etrain271@...)<br><br>I
don't care if they're zipped or not but I would like
them to be if possible.

I fixed the error and it didn't have anything to do with my VGA files after all! <br><br>Catch me on MSmessenger if ya want to hear the whole story.

John Bucksnort has released 2 new Spear Of
Destiny sets, which completes his trilogy of 'The
Greinholdt Covenant'. <br><br>The second set is subtitled
'The Formula' and has 12 levels, while the third is
subtitled 'The Dawn Of Death', and has 7 levels. Both sets
have lots of new graphics, sounds, and source code
changes. Harry Mass Senior helped with the second
set.<br><br>Both sets are listed on my news page at
<a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a><br><br>They'll be listed on my main page later in the week.

sorry guys i wasnt able to chat.<br>unlike tristan, i was having a nice and relaxing time on vacation. :p hhehehe

Thanks again MCS. I tried your suggestion and
bingo, the abnormal program termination disappeared
completely. I haven't had alot of time to go over the source
you gave me, but from what I've seen so far... Looks
good.. <br><br>I hope you are able to use some of the
ideas I had about the future SOD2 release. I'll let you
know if I get the menu'ing system down for the
add-on/tc working... if you don't beat me to it first
<grin>....<br><br>Once again.. Thanks.. and hope to chat again
soon.<br><br>Greg

You're welcome, Greg. I can't remember what
suggestion got you moving (blame LA CHOUFFE, that awesome
beer from Belgium) but I'm glad it worked for you
:-)<br><br>I hope you find some useful things in the WolfCol
source, feel free to use the music stuff
anyway..<br><br>I might be able to make it next weekend, I hope I
don't drive away the other chatters with all that code
talking (sorry Brian :-)<br><br>Take
care,<br>Martin<br>a.k.a. MCS

Over the last few days, I've been working on a
Wolf 3D TC called WOTH2 (Wrath Of The Hedgehog 2), and
have revised many of the levels, partly to remove some
minor bugs, but also to make the set more interesting.
Also, I've changed the 'Read This' info (available from
the menu) so that id software is credited. <br><br>If
anyone's interested in this updated version, they can get
it at <a href=http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/jhedge3c.zip target=new>http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/jhedge3c.zip</a>

Good news!! I'm almost done with the code in
WolfEx! after I'm finished all the code changes I will
work on the GFX but I think I'm going to keep most of
the levels original (with minor changes to objects
though). This doesn't mean that I wont change ANY levels,
just the ones I need to change will be
changed.<br><br>I've also decided to make a WolfEx 2!! Just like the
original, it will be a SOD TC. It will have many source
changes just like WolfEx and new GFX as well.<br><br>I
don't have any plans for a WolfEx Special Edition or
WolfEx 3 yet, but maybe in the distant
future!<br><br>Any ideas or comments, send them to me at
etrain271@...

The main thing that got me on the right direction
was looking at the ifdef and ifndef statements.
Removing all the parts of the code that were specific to
another version helped solve the problem with the
abnormal program terminations. <br><br>Even though those
portions of the code should not be included in the final
compile, they do affect the way the exe is compiled. Even
John C. said in the release text that the code was
messy with too many ifdef and such.. <br><br>anyhow...
it removed the barrier that I was having in
completing my code changes and i thank you for the nudge in
the right direction... <br><br>Maybe I should have
had a few of those beers... Lol<br><br>Greg

Thanks Steve,<br><br>The package arrived in the
mail this morning. I've just opened it and haven't had
much time to look at it as I figgured I would post
here letting you know that it had arrived.
<br><br>I'll get to work on adding the information to the club
website that I'm slowly working on. <br><br>Once again...
Thanks... and if you need a favour, just ask as I owe you
one... <br><br>Greg

Don't forget the weekly chat.... <br><br>Where:
Here in the club chat
room....<br>When:<br><br>Saturday<br>CAN-US EST 5:00pm<br>CAN-US CST 4:00pm<br>CAN-US PST
2:00pm<br>London Eng 10:00pm<br>Rotterdam
11:00pm<br>Sunday<br>Sydney Aus 9:00am<br>New Zeland 10:00am <br><br>If your
area isn't listed above, please send me a message and
we'll get your timezone listed. Hope to see you all
there. <br><br>Greg

One is called The Inner Circle, a Spear demo set
by Philipp Luy, and the other is Warzone II, by
DTrade (ten levels).<br><br>You can get them from my
news page at <a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a>

For those of you who follow the club stats...
Yahoo is currently working on fixing the problem. In
their move to combine yahoo groups and clubs, they have
broken the stats update.. The information is still being
gathered and collected, just not updated when you visit
the club pages. It a problem all clubs are
experiencing and they hope to have it fixed soon.<br><br>Greg

Currently 3 in room and growing... the club homepage may not list all those members on-line but enter the chat room... we are there...

Wow, that was another good chat with lots of
interesting ideas floating around. Thanks to those members
that joined in (8) and hope everyone can attend the
next one.. Everyone should be on daylight savings time
now, so I'll redo the times and post them.
<br><br>Well, I'm off to try and install the 5th weapon or
second chaingun that M and I chatted about. <br><br>Greg

Hey Greg!<br><br>You were going to mail me a print of the entire chat, remember? When will you send it to me?<br><br>Thanks in advance,<br><br>Tristan.

Once again I missed the chat. This time I didn't
forget about it though, the problem was with my
internet. My cable company was having tech problems and the
internet was down Sat. and part of today!<br><br>I'll make
it next week unless something like that happenes
again.

When Yahoo puts in a log chat function...
<br><br>I told you on Saturday that it was not possible as
you can't save a log. You can't capture it in any
way.<br><br>Sorry Tristan... Talk to the people at Yahoo and have
them add that option to the JavaChat... <br><br>Greg

hey does anyone have spear lost episodes i really need it. please send it to me if you do.<br>-sam

Hi Sam,<br><br>I tried the previously listed url
and it wouldn't work, so this is a slightly different
one... give this a try..
:<br><br><a href=http://us.share.geocities.com/bh_server/sod_le.zip target=new>http://us.share.geocities.com/bh_server/sod_le.zip</a><br><br>This one is tested and works...

Hey-<br>If that doesn't work email me (CedFoo7@...) and i'll send you a copy.  Or be like me, watch ebay, and get em for $5.<br><br>CedFoo

There's also a version of 'Lost Episodes' which works with the 1.4 shareware Wolf3D. You can get this one from <br><a href=http://www.belowe.com/links2.htm target=new>http://www.belowe.com/links2.htm</a>

Hello everyone.<br><br>Once again I'm sending out
this reminder that the club chat is a weekly event
where club members can come and chat about anything
they'd like. Meet new people, share ideas, or just sit
back and read what others have to say.. The choice is
yours. <br><br>The chat is held each Weekend here at the
club. <br>Yahoo is currently experiencing some problems
so if it doesn't list people being in chat when you
view the page, join anyhow... Chances are that we are
there... <br><br>What time... well, I visited the world
time clock again, and here are the
times:<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm - Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific
Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am - Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code... <br><br>Hope
to see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I'm going to be starting a wolf3d site of my own
soon. It will be named Wolf3d Realm. If anyone already
has the rights to this name, please let me know NOW
so that I can quickly change the name to something
else.<br><br>IF nobody claims that they own Wolf3d Realm already,
my site will be located at
<a href=http://www.wolf3drealm.cjb.net target=new>http://www.wolf3drealm.cjb.net</a><br><br>stay tuned for the site's grand opening!

Whew! I haven't been here in ages it seems ;)
Work on CW IV is still underway. The layout is pretty
much 99.9% finalized (got to change some of the
JavaScripts and correct the links and I'm working on a better
navigation menu for the Editorials section...that'll take no
time). Primarily now it's the text, tutorials, source
information and all that jazz. I'll focus on that this
weekend and maybe make some progress. I think this site
will be pretty good when it's done and at least better
than CW III. I believe all who have seen the index
layout agree :)<br><br>Haven't touched the source in
about 3 weeks, lol. It's going well, but in this time
I've forgotten some points of my code so I'll have to
take a refresher course on it, so to speak ;) As for
as public domain graphics...uhm, yeah, those too ;)
I have done nothing, sadly, for the club as I have
no clue where to start. I might have to post some
older graphics I did and leave them up to you all to
change them or use them as bases for something as they
are not very "awesome" really. If anyone has any
suggestions as for what wall types you think would benefit
the community, please let me know as I'm a little
blank for inspiration.<br><br>Well, I'll post later. I
hope to make the chat this weekend, but if I don't,
have fun you guys and lemme know what I missed! ;)
<br><br>-Ian

I might not make it again this week because i'm shopping for a new car.<br><br>If I'm not there once again, you'll know why.

Its the Irish fella here (aka Ian #2 or
quinnsey). looks like I missed my first chat since joining
the club. Although I could see everyone, they
couldn't see me.<br>Pity. Although I doubt its yahoo this
time, my PC is always giving trouble. If your reading
this go ahead into the chatroom-it's working fine for
everyone else.<br>Enjoy the chat and hopefullly I will be
there next week<br>Ian #2

Hi all,<br>Arrived back from hols yesterday -
good break - top weather!<br>Missed this morning's
chat - 7.00am Aus time - I'm still sleeping! But I'll
be around from 0700 - 0800 next Sunday so I may
catch a few of you then.<br>Oh - good to see you got
the hint manuals Greg.<br><br>Take care all<br>Steve

As typical me usually does, I missed out on a chance to socialize ;) lol...Fell asleep.<br><br>I hope I can make the next one, see you all till then...<br><br>-Ian #1

just what the subject said (look above)

hey ian#2<br>i know there is tons of problems with yahoo and yahoo instant messenger.<br>ive experienced hundreds of them.so dont worry its common<br><br>-sam

That wouldn't surprise me, Sam. I installed Yahoo
messenger for the first time yesterday. Firstly, it put its
links and shortcuts all over the place. It's easy
enough to delete them etc, but still, I hate programs
that do that without asking if it's OK first!
Ya-bloody-hoo...! <br>Anyway, after installing it, I tried chatting
with Daniel (maximuspig) as he happened to be online.
But then I seemed to get not one but 2 seperate
message boxes (both different in appearance), and he
didn't seem to be getting all my replies. OK, I'm
obviously doing something wrong (ie: reading the online
help would probably help but I can't be bothered yet -
guess I'm one of those impatient types that "plays
first, reads later" :) Don't know yet whether I'll keep
it or uninstall it - I'll give it a few more goes
over the coming weeks I guess.<br>At least when I used
ICQ for the first time it was straight forward and
dead easy.<br>Oh well, the weekly chat runs OK without
Messenger (or at least it did for me anyway), so that's the
main thing I guess.<br><br>Take care all,<br>Steve

Steve,<br><br>If you decide to keep it (Yahoo
Messenger) and it starts working ok, feel free to add me if
you'd like. I normally don't use it much, though, since
it's kind of weird interface and takes forever to load
here so I usually switch over to MSN Messenger
(Microsoft actually made a stable program with it!). Since
all my buddies now seem to be using Yahoo!,
though...down goes MSN? lol ;)<br><br>-Ian #...what's my number
again? <G>

I've started some work on graphics for both my
project and pub domain and things are coming
along...slowly, but still coming along. I'll let you all know how
progress is going from time to
time.<br><br>-Ian<br><br>PS: Message 138...impressive!

Mutantstein 3 has been posted and is available
from my news page. There's a couple of pics from level
two on there too. <br><br>It's a 6 level set from
John Bucksnort and Harry Mass Senior. There's a lot of
changed graphics, sounds, and source code
changes.<br><a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a>

Ian,<br>Actually, I installed MSN just after
Messenger, as MCS said to try it. I'll do a search for you
next time I try it (of course I can't now as I'm using
the net from work - lucky me :)<br><br>I think
Messenger, MSN and ICQ are enough message proggies for
now...!<br><br>Steve

Steve,<br>You can add me to MSN @: giantspiders@.... If anyone else here wishes to add me, feel free. I'm usually on during the afternoon CST.<br><br>-Ian

I started a little 2 second page now (a quick
page for the songs I found)<br><br>Add it to the
diehardwolfers page if ya want, but for now it will be in the
Links Section to the left. <br><br>Check out RARE
DIEHARDWOLFERS SONGS

If you are too lazy like me, just copy and paste this to the location bar:<br><br><a href=http://www.angelfire.com/games3/wolf3drealm/index.html target=new>http://www.angelfire.com/games3/wolf3drealm/index.html</a>

The chat is held each Weekend here at the club.
<br>Yahoo is currently experiencing some problems so if it
doesn't list people being in chat when you view the page,
join anyhow... Chances are that we are there...
<br><br>What time... well, I visited the world time clock
again, and here are the
times:<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm - Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific
Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am - Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code... <br><br>Hope
to see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

It's started a little early today... lol...

couldn't make it again. Sorry about that.

Just letting you people know that I am still around :) I've been visiting this page every day so far. <br><br>Anyways, keep up the good work!<br><br>-Leo

thanks alot guys. i finally got a copy of it,<br>so dont worry.<br>By the way, i missed the chat this weekend cause i was on vacation again. ill see if i could make it next week.<br>-sam

Dear Greg, how about these times?<br><br>09:00pm
- Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>08:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>03:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>12:00am - Pacific
Canada/Us<br>23:00pm - Moscow - Russia<br><br>Sunday<br>05:00am -
Sydney Australia<br>07:00am - New Zealand<br><br>This
way it'll be better to follow for the Dutch, UK and
Russia residents. Plus at that time I can chat longer
before my eyes close ;)<br><br>Please take these in
consideration... Thanks in advance.<br><br>Tristan

I did take the times into consideration when I
posted them... I know it's a little on the late side for
you, but your times put Australia and New Zealand into
times where they are sleeping.<br><br>From what I
understand, there is no-one from Russia in the chat. But
Areyep (from Australia) does attend the chat and
changing the time earlier than 7am his time would be
unfair to him too. <br><br>I didn't set the time for the
chat with what was best for me. I set the time based
on trying to include everyone. <br><br>Sorry if that
creates a problem for you specifically, but it seems to
work for just about all the rest. <br><br>Lets see
what the rest have to say.. But personally, I have to
look at things that include everyone and thus have to
vote no to your times.<br><br>Greg

Greg,<br>hope it didn't seem like I just shot
through from the chat - for some odd reason the message
display area of my screen went blank, logging off and
back on didn't seem to help either. Better luck next
time hopefully.<br><br>As for the times, Sunday
morning I don't get up until around 0900am, so that's why
I will probably only get in the chats from work.
Sunday morning is generally VERY quiet at work so it's a
good time. When I'm on nighshifts, I finish at 0830,
so will probably be able to get in for a hour, and
when I'm starting at 0830, will probably be able to
get in for an hour also. That gives me 2 to 4
opportunities out of eight to participate.<br><br>So, in other
words, I'm not overly worried about the
times.<br><br>When ya live down under, them's the breaks
:)<br><br>Take care,<br>Steve

Leo,<br><br>Good to hear that, man. Still working
on your TC? Let us know the progress...<br><br>DHW
has been doing great, I agree. Let's keep posting and
let everyone know about this place.<br><br>-Ian

Does anyone know how to make an enemy respawn like in doom?

Hmm... Haven't tried anything like that Luke...
<br><br>I'm not sure that it can be done without a lot of
re-writing of the code. You'd actually have to track killed
guards and set timers for respawning them. Not that it
can't be done... But I can't see it being done that
easily in the current code.<br><br>Greg

Hey, does anyone here know the code for editing  the bar in wolf3d? like moving things around and adding new things to it? for example, like in steve's SOD2 where there's an ammo 2.

Do you mean the Status Bar?<br><br>If yes...
first you need to get Floedit and that will allow you
to change the graphics used on and for the status
bar... <br><br>Second, all the code you need to edit to
place things on your new bar is in the wl_agent.c
file.<br><br>In there you will find routines for updating your
health, weapon, ammo, keys, score and more.. <br><br>Hope
that helps... <br><br>Greg

Zo, nu heb ik wel je aandacht? Werdt tijd na 2
weken >:( . Ome Martin beantwoordt altijd alle
mails, jaja... :D<br><br>Ik snap dat je moet werken, ik
snap ook dat je SOD2 doet, maar.. op zijn minst "nu
even niet" had toch wel gekund? Nou ja. Je zal het wel
druk
hebben.<br><br>Groetjes,<br><br>Tristan.<br><br>FOR ALL OTHERS WHO READ THIS: IT'S DUTCH. IT'S
NOTHING WORSE. I JUST ASK MARTIN, MCS, WOLF3D4ALL AND
LUCKYSPINNER(HOWEVER YOU MAY KNOW HIM) IF HE WANTS TO MAIL ME BACK
ASAP. THAT'S ALL.

Walla walla bing bang to you too, Tristan ;)<br><br>lol j/k :) :)<br><br>-Ian

I'm really sorry Martin. This time I'll tell it
publicly. I've been a little upset(when I wasn't allowed
to) that Martin didn't mail me back. I'm very sorry.
It won't happen again. It's just that I'm fond(yes,
you read it right) of keeping in touch with everyone.
Not for someone's talents. I hope I didn't really
upset you all,<br><br>Tristan

Once again I'm sending out this reminder that the
club chat is a weekly event where club members can
come and chat about anything they'd like. Meet new
people, share ideas, or just sit back and read what
others have to say.. The choice is yours. <br><br>The
chat is held each Weekend here at the club.
<br><br>What time... well, I visited the world time clock
again, and here are the
times:<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm - Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific
Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am - Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code... This week
lets discuss map making / level editing...
<br><br>Hope to see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

My wolf3d site is going DOWN DOWN DOWN<br>im not going to update it because of server problems. im making a new one so stay tuned. <br>email me for questions or comments:  selong_chiang@...

Today I might be able to come to the
chat.<br>Just thought I'd let you
know.<br><br>Anyways,<br><br>I am working on my new TC, and no, I have no name
for it yet. There is many sound, and gfx changes. I
might play around with the source when I am finished
with everything else.<br><br>-Leo

Come on in... click on the Enter Button and join in on the chat...

Thanks again to those that
participated...<br><br>Hope to see you all next week...<br><br>Although with
the problems that we are experiencing with yahoo java
chat, it's probably a good time to find another venue
for the chat.<br><br>I'm looking into it.. and will
post more when I have a better solution.. <br><br>Greg

Does anyone want to help out with the levels in
this game? Cause I have like 10 or so left if anyone
wants to help? They can and they will be in the doc
file I am adding to my zip for who helped ect. respond
please if u want to.

If anyone has got the Mega demo source code to work could they please help me?<br>Thanks<br>Ian #2

'Lightwalkers' is a new upcoming TC by Luis
Valoyes from Columbia. There'll be 60 new levels and
almost all graphics will be completely
new.<br><br>There's more info and pics at Luis's website at
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/luisvaloyes/lightwalkers/ target=new>http://www.geocities.com/luisvaloyes/lightwalkers/</a>

'Lightwalkers' is a new upcoming TC by Luis
Valoyes from Columbia. There'll be 60 new levels and
almost all graphics will be completely
new.<br><br>There's more info and pics at Luis's website at
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/luisvaloyes/lightwalkers/ target=new>http://www.geocities.com/luisvaloyes/lightwalkers/</a>

Right.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Jes' kidding. :) Keep up the good work Luke.<br><br>Tristan

... this day. I have taken 3 hours to make this
site, but it�s only at the beginning, i
have<br>included 3 official add-ons/demos from CHAOS<br>Software,
it�s my project-group... i and my<br>friend Andreas
Schuler making this thing,<br>he help me with the code
for our upcoming set<br>OPERATION: Zusammenkunft (you
can download the<br>NEW 0.6 version of the demo on my
side :-), i <br>don�t know at this moment, how long he
want works<br>with me in CHAOS Software, the future
will show<br>the truth. Ok, if you like, visit my page
at<br><a href=HTTP://nexusofwar.hypermart.net target=new>HTTP://nexusofwar.hypermart.net</a> !!! It�s totally<br>new and only the adresse is
old (from the NOW<br>project) ... i will clear this
problem in the<br>next days. Sign my guestbook and if you
like,<br>download some of my sets... i will enjoy :-)<br>If you
like to talk about my sets, please send<br>a mail to
philippluy@... or write a <br>post or reply at this club. That�s
all for this<br>moment. Greetings to all at this club
!!!<br>cu<br>philipp

it�s not very easy to work with this source<br>code on our own TC, i can understand your problems<br>@Ian but i�m only on the way to a working source<br>code, on the way, sorry....

dude, calm down.<br><br>someone get this guy a tranqulizer!!!!<br><br>hehe j/k

Ok... with the problems that we've been
experiencing with the Yahoo Java Chat... It's time that we
find a new home for the chat.. <br><br>I've done some
research and found a quiet little server that will meet
our needs... <br><br>First, you'll need an IRC chat
program... Like mIRC or Pirch... Personally, I use mIRC...
You can find it at <a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a> (for those
who don't have a chat program. Once you've installed
it.. Add the server www.bytecenter.com<br><br>ie in
mIRC: <br>Description : Whatever you wish to call
it.<br>IRC_Server: www.bytecenter.com<br>Port: 6667 <br><br>Then
save... And connect... the room will be DieHardWolfers
and my nickname is Tank_Drvr. <br>I'll also monitor
the club chat to direct over those that don't get
this message. I hope to see you all there..
<br><br>The times are the same... unless we get a majority
wanting the times to change. Remember when making
suggestions that we have people from all over the world
visiting.. <br><br>Any comments... Let me know..
<br><br>Greg

THE ULTIMATE WOLFENSTEIN 3D Webring
searching<br>more members to start, please write your<br>homepage
into the ring to make it better<br>and bigger... i
have seen many webrings<br>full with dead links and
other crap and<br>i want make a place for all people
how loves<br>WOLFENSTEIN 3D and searching sites about
it.<br>Help me please and join my THE ULTIMATE
<br>WOLFENSTEIN 3D Webring
at:<br><a href=http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=theultimatewolfe target=new>http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=theultimatewolfe</a><br>or looks into the linklist of this club!!

hey, i might wanna join your webring when my site is done<br><br>-sam

The Chat Room is open over on the www.bytecenter.com IRC server.  Hope to see you there... <br><br>Greg

I just went though the net and can't find any good wolf3d like there were a few months ago. Everyone I try has error messages.

Sorry I couldn't get into the chat from here -
firewall restrictions. But, it seems the chat sometimes
lasts for a few hours, so in future I may be able to
get in from home for a bit.<br><br>Ciaou for
now,<br>Steve

Wolf3dse will have a new status bar thanks to Eric.  I had to modify it alot cause of colors and for the armor to show up instead of the gun.  It is neat though

Start from Mr. Lowes page... or from the links
here at the club.. there are alot of good sites.. and
then there are some that aren't.. depends more on ones
tastes.. Mr.Lowes page lists just about every site out
there... <br><br>Enjoy.. <br><br>Greg

Well it's my turn to post my opinion on our last
chat. After 1 hour and 30 minutes of me, Martin and
Quinn goofing off by changing our names and swapping
places and some playful name calling and Martin kicking
me out of the chat room when Greg opped him (I later
got to kick Martin out, yay! <G>), we discussed
our opinions on the new TCs, the scene, a little
about our projects and stuff like that. Also, we were
on edge as Martin relayed Steve's messages about how
he couldn't get into the chat unfortunately. Oh
yeah, and I think Martin drank all his Belgian beer,
too...Anyway, the IRC server Greg chose worked great so no lags
seemed to occour. Besides, it's more fun to change your
nick name on the fly and turn into MCS whenever you
want :)<br><br>I was only able to stay for two hours
of the chat, so I don't know how long it went on.
Anyway, it was fun goofing off with you all...hope to do
it again next weekend!<br><br>-Ian

Some sites are being revamped (like Kenny's and
Ian's). <br><br>The Hideout got deleted due to a serious
outage last month on the server it was on. X-human says
he will get it back up, but he hasn't done it
yet.<br><br>Tripod took a dislike to Wolf3D and deleted both Barry's
and Gary's sites. Gary's other site is still there
though, and Barry has now set up 'The Wolfenstein 3D
Vault'.<br><br>My news page was down for part of last week due to a
server upgrade. This should now work OK.<br><br>As Greg
says, there are plenty of other sites still there.
There are 3 new ones listed at the top of my links page
at
<a href=http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/links.htm target=new>http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/links.htm</a>

Brian has some good links but there were more
addons and full games that I was able to download at one
time. (stupid me had to format and lost everything)
I've notice that I am no longer able to get
Wolfenstein or Spear of Destiny full game anymore. I have
both on a 5 1/4 disk and I know I should have recopy
to a 3 1/2 disk before buying a new computer so that
is my fault. Thanks for the info. Bear

Does any body have a program that I can edit ammo
and health for wolf3d and spear of destiny. Also does
anybody have the full version 1.4 or any version of
wolf3d. I have a wolf creator and it needs a full version
of wolf. thanks.

Caution!<br><br>From now on, don't trust any
person who calls himself MCS beforehand.<br>Please check
if this person is able to speak Dutch. If he
pretends to speak Dutch, and the only subject he talks
about is cheese, then it's not MCS.<br>If he tries to
convince you that he enabled more than 64 wall tiles in
Wolf3D, then it's CERTAINLY not MCS!!<br><br>To make sure
you're dealing with the right person, just ask what "LA
CHOUFFE" means. The answer should be: "Mind your own
business"<br><br>lol.

If you mean editing the ammo and health graphics, you can use WolfEdit - available from <a href=http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/wolfed21.zip target=new>http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/wolfed21.zip</a>

lol...<br>whats the fake mcs gonna do, send me a virus?<br>lol

To all u people with sights I got a question y
don't u ever update? I found tons of news and poeple
asking were do I post info tutorials on wolf3d ect. on a
excite board. I am going to start my own sight soon and
it will be updated like 2 times a week.

Do any of you use the Windows 98 Operating
System. If so, can you get me the new version of Windows
Media Player, also, thanks to whoever told me how to
edit the ammo and health, I think the Flo's
Wolfenstein editor is cool!

Do any of you have the wolf engine

Can anybody on their site have xdrive send files
that I need to my xdrive. I mean have something that
you can have the files you download send to my xdrive
account. xdrive is a internet hard drive. Anybody?

Go to your windows upgrade on your desktop and you should be able to download it. Thats how I got it.

sorry but I am right now running mac. Is there any wolf sites that has a link that I can download wolf files into my xdrive account?

hi

Thanks for your email greg, sorry for not
replying sooner. Could you please send me that status bar
pic via Yahoo messenger, ICQ (108600336) or some
other source. Unfortunatly my email server refuses to
open it and all I get is scrambled garbage and broken
links.<br>BTW Thanks for helping me out!<br>Ian

dude, my site is gone...

Hey man! I know all about the MEGADEMO Code! I
know so much that I could re-write it blindfolded!
What do ya need help with? I can answer ANY question
about the code and fix many erros you may get while
editing the code!<br><br>Talk to me when ya have the
chance!

I'll add my site when it is finished
too.<br><br>You can see my site at
<a href=http://www.wolf3drealm.cjb.net target=new>http://www.wolf3drealm.cjb.net</a><br><br>Please note that it is not even close to being finished!
It doesn't even have content yet so don't complain
right away :P<br><br>Cya soon - CHAD -

Look on the left hand side of the forum and click on the link that says links! There are some really good sites there!

I'm back everyone! I was gone for quite a while
now but I'm back in to wolf3d for some reason and I'm
going to be here for a while!<br><br>I see a lot of new
people around the wolf3d community (about 15 new people
since I left a month ago!!)<br><br>I can be found at
the following message boards/forums:<br><br>Tekkoudan
message board<br>RW - if it ever comes back :P<br>B.
Farmers Source Code Help<br>This forum
:P<br>Wolf3dmansion forum<br>and a few more that i check into every
year or so :)<br><br>For those that don't know me, I'm
currently working on a project named WolfEx which is almost
in BETA form right now. I am also going to be the
webmaster of the WOLF3DREALM which will be a wolf3d site to
come out sometime soon.<br><br>I'm pretty good at
answering and figuring out errors in wolf3d so if ya get
one, contact me at my main e-mail which is:
etrain271@...<br><br>Cya later everyone!!! - CHAD - etrain271 -

I got a few questions how do rewrite it? Cause
when I test my new exe. it is all fucked? And what
parts of the code talk about the lighting affect I
bieleve its wl_draw.c and what else? Prespond please

Does anybody have the wolf engine?

Yes... most of us do... The exe file is the
engine but compiled... The source code for the engine is
coded in C++ and you must use Borland C++ V3.0 or 3.1
to compile it correctly. It is the PC source...
sorry no mac at this time... The source is available
from ID's software site... The compiler is available
on a few sites.

There is little (if any) code for the shading in
wl_draw.c actually! For the most part, the shading can be
found in WL_Main.c and lshade.h<br><br>If you still
can't find what you're looking for in the code, try
searching for the name FLO because he's commented
EVERYTHING he's changed.<br><br>Also, what do you mean "All
fucked"? Are you getting error messages?
Explain.<br><br>Cya - CHAD

Go to <a href=http://www.wolf3dmansion.com/source.phtml target=new>http://www.wolf3dmansion.com/source.phtml</a>
to get the engine (source code) and the right editor
for it!<br><br>Even though Kenny's site isn't up
quite yet, all the links work so check it out! :)

Like say when u mess up on the source code when u
compile it and the exe. is all messed up and stuff. Thats
how it is when I try to recomiple it. do u have to
have to click link, make comile? and what parts of
wl_main.c contain the light shading if u know

Yes, I finally got things moving at Castle
Wolfenstein (my website) again. I'm hosted at Spaceports.com
(I recommend anyone interested in a solid server
check them out, but they are a little technical). No,
the new layout is not up, but things are soon to be
moving. I'm hoping to have things uploaded sooner than I
thought I would before.<br><br>Check out my page if
you're interested. To Webmasters: please update your
links with the new URL if you have linked to my page.
Sorry for the inconvience of the change.
<br><br>-Ian<br><br>The new URL:<br><a href=http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~wolf3d/ target=new>http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~wolf3d/</a>

I've moved Castle Wolfenstein to a new and better
server. Check out the address below for more information.
To Webmasters: If you have linked to my page, please
update your links with the new URL below. Thanks a
lot.<br><br><a href=http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~wolf3d/ target=new>http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~wolf3d/</a><br><br>The new layout should be up fairly soon...please
check back often!<br><br>-Ian

The Chat Channel "DieHardWolfers" is open on the bytecenter chat server... You need mIRC or Pirch to get there... <br><br>The Server is www.bytecenter.com

The exe is messed up how? You need to be VERY
specific because there are lots of things that could be
wrong :P<br><br>Does the exe start or does it kick you
out right away? are there error when you compile it?
If so, what do they say? <br><br>One thing i noticed
is that if you edit the MEGADEMO code, you are going
to get Warnings during the compile because of the
things he's done in the WL_Act files.<br><br>Also, you
should have HIS audio files with the other files because
he's added new sounds to the code. As for the new GFX
he's added, you could just comment them
out.<br>--------------------------------------<br>I always click on Build All. This compiles and
builds the whole project at
once.<br>--------------------------------------<br>As for where the code is, it's about half way down.
You'll see a comment that says FLO's code or something
like that. You can't miss
it!<br>--------------------------------------<br><br>Get back to me on what the errors say (if there are
errors) or tell me what the exe is doing that is so
messed up. It might just be the GFX for all I know! You
need to be specific.

My game is nearing completion. Whats left is 13
levels and one thing in the source...THE SECOND AMMO
TYPE!!!!!The levels will take no more then a week now but the
second ammo type alittle longer. My tc will be released
either by the end of the month or on wolfenstein's
birthday:-). Respond to this if u wish to know more or if u
want to help out with the levels or the source? I
would appreciate it

I mean that I don't have internet for a pc yet at home, but I am at school downloading pc files from a mac computer.

As of now this game is holded I have its source
along with the gfx and games maps still here. But until
I can get some things down in the source it will
ber holded but it will be released I
SWEAR!!!!!!Unlike alot of poeple who start a or say they start a
project get everyone all hyped up and then say some bull
shit oh ya it uh got deleted or some shit I have all
the files saved backed up on disc's:-). I will be
working on 2 projects at once the other is........THE
SORCERERS WRATH.......

I was just in "Yellowjacket's Tavern" and there are a lot of pages not found. Hate sites when that happens.

Hehe - sounds like my 14 year old son at school :) Even some of his teachers are into game editing etc!

Hey man light shading question again. I have all
the files added to my directory meaing lshade.h and
lshade.c<br><br>But now for wl_main.c and wl_draw.c can u tell me
which files need to be transfered over so the lighting
shading works? Cause I got an abormal program termination
just copying floe's wl_main.c<br>Help me out if u can
please

Luke,<br><br>All I can say is good luck on
getting this to work! I think I've tried about four times
to get Flo's routines to work...they never work. The
last time will be the last time for a long
time.<br><br>I don't want to screw anyone up but I don't think
it's as simple as copying LSHADE.C, LSHADE.H and a few
lines from Flo's WL_MAIN.C file. There are A LOT of
routines for shading in WL_DRAW.C that I assume need to be
copied as well. Then again, as I said, I never got the
shading to work, so I could be very wrong...If all else
fails try looking for Flo's comments in WL_DRAW.C and
maybe you can make sense of them (I certainly
couldn't).<br><br>Back to page 17 of "C++ For Dummies" for
me...<br><br>-Ian

Tell me about it...<br><br>If you're interested
in what my new layout will look like, check out the
address below. (Note to webmasters: do not link to the
address below,
please):<br><br><a href=http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~wolf3d/newindex.html target=new>http://cirrus.spaceports.com/~wolf3d/newindex.html</a><br><br>Weekly updates, tutorials, editorials, reviews,
downloads, lots more. I seem to be the only one interested
in this sort of thing anymore :)<br><br>-Ian

A wolf3D Desktop theme. Get it here:<br><br><a href=http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/dl/40.pl/QDL33440OZJ/themes/wolf-3d.zip target=new>http://www.themeworld.com/cgi-bin/dl/40.pl/QDL33440OZJ/themes/wolf-3d.zip</a>

Does anyone here know WHERE to paste the html code for a frame set in Geocities? If anyone knows please reply to this message!<br><br>thanks<br><br>-sam

I've been having trouble with the internet on my
home PC (I'm typing this in school). So I don't if
I'll be able to come to the chat tonight. I've been
trying all week, but all i get is a error with the
internet socket conection... <br>I'm not really sure what
to do with it. You'll know why if I'm not
there.<br>Ian (#2)

in index.html<br>in the "head" section<br>do not
include the "body" section<br><br>EX: (without the
periods)<br><br><.html><br><.head><br><.title><./title><br><.frameset cols="100,*"><br><.frame name="A"
src=left.html" NORESIZE="yes"
SCROLLING="no"><br><.frameset rows="96,*"><br><.frame name="B"
src="top.html" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE="yes"><br><.frame
name="C"
src="welcome.html"><br><./frameset><br><./html>

I know of another nice thing to have with a
Geocities account.<br><br>place <br><!-- %%NOBANNER%%
--><br>under the <html> tag and the banner wont show
up!<br><br>NOTE: This only works about 50% of the time :P

The Chat room is open over on the byte center
server... Hope to see you all there once again..
<br><br>Use mIRC or Pirch... the server should be set to
<br>www.bytecenter.com and the channel is DieHardWolfers<br><br>Greg

Is Geocities shutting down?!<br>i just wanna know cause some people said it was...

I don't think geocities is shutting down but it
was down for a while for construction. <br><br>All my
web pages were deleted in one whole directory of mine
because of this and I now hate geocities more than
anything so i hope they do shutdown.<br><br>Also, the
filemanager in geocities is still under construction causing
pages to be deleted and pages to be shown
improperly.<br><br>Geocities is as good as shutdown. If you have any site
hosted at geocities, I would suggest you move them fast
before all your hard work is wasted!

How do you move your site?????

#1. Download everything off of Geocities that you
uploaded<br>#2. Upload it to another webserver<br><br>I may
suggest you use Spaceports, but if you don't have
experience with FTP programs then you might want to skip it
since you have to FTP everything to your account and
it's a bit techy. If you want to take a shot at
Spaceports, however, try CrystalFTP as it's a freeware FTP
client and the best I've ever
tried.<br><br><a href=http://www.spaceports.com/ target=new>http://www.spaceports.com/</a><br><a href=http://www.slaughterhouse.com/ target=new>http://www.slaughterhouse.com/</a> (site has CrystalFTP in its Internet section
under FTP progs)<br><br>If all else fails, try
50megs.com...but don't rely on it as a download server since I've
only had complaints of people not being able to
download off of that server (and I have to email them the
programs).<br><br>I also heard from a visitor to my site that
50megs.com is notorious for deleting anything they deem as
"warezy" including TCs, add-ons, etc and of course
Abandonware. So I would be cautious of what you'd upload and
again, don't rely on it as a download server
much.<br><br>Hope this was useful.<br><br>-Ian

6 weapons have just been added along with half of the respawing code for my tc:-).  One question though are any of u famliar with the doom source?

Hey <br><br>i need major help...regarding the
frame set for my site.<br>i tried the code(thank you to
all of you that helped).<br>There is one major
problem though.<br>go to my site:
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/wolf3dheaven/main.html?989890889050 target=new>http://www.geocities.com/wolf3dheaven/main.html?989890889050</a><br><br>you'll see what the problem is. i think there is
something wrong with the HTML code, which
is:<br><br><HTML><br><HEAD><br><TITLE>Navagation</TITLE><br></HEAD><br><FRAMESET COLS="30%,*"><br><FRAME NAME="nav"
SRC="menu.html"><br><NOFRAMES><br>No
Frames<br></NOFRAMES><br></FRAMESET><br></HTML><br><br>PLEASE PLEASE HELP!!!!!<br><br>-sam

Ill have to add that there is supposed to be something on the right side. you can see that there is nothing there right now.

Here you go sam i wrote u a simple tutor to
explain frames 2 you.<br><br><br>____________Pigs HTML
TUTOR__________________<br> <br>First make 3 HTML documents: <br> <br>1.html
<br>2.html <br>3.html
<br>__________________________________________________<br> <br>1.html will have: <br> <br><html>
<br><head> <br> <title>Untitled</title> <br>
<frameset cols="20%,70%> <br> <frame src="2.html">
<br> <frame src="3.html" Name="3 window">
<br></frameset> <br> <br></head> <br></html>
<br>__________________________________________________<br> <br>2.html will have: <br> <br><html>
<br><head> <br>	 <br>	<title>Untitled</title>
<br>	 <br> <h1>The Menu</h1> <br>
<br>	<frame src="2.html" frameborder"no">
<br>	<frameset> <br>	 <br>	 <br>	</frameset> <br>	 <br>
<br></head> <br><body bgcolor="8b0000" text="b22222"
link="#000000" vlink="#000000" alink="#000000"> <br>
<br></body> <br></html> <br> <br><br> 3.html will have
in the document: <br><br>	 <br><html>
<br><head> <br> <br><tittle></tittle>
<br><body bgcolor="006400" text="32cd32" link="#32cd32"
vlink="#32cd32" alink="#32cd32"> <br></body> <br>
<br><frameset> <br> <br> </frameset> <br>	</head>
<br> </html> <br>	 	
__________________________________________________<br><br><br>Daniel<br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a><br>will update soon.

The hand of god added as the 6th weapon.  With projectile function along with it:-).  Yes I got a projectile weapon in it:-).

For those who liked 'Halloween', this set has a
similar atmosphere. It's a ten level set by Amirtes, and
there's lots of eerie sounds and graphics. There's more
info and the download at 'Amirtes Realm' on
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/amirtes/ target=new>http://www.geocities.com/amirtes/</a><br><br>The set needs the full version of Wolf 3D to
play.<br><br>You can also download the set at
<a href=http://www.belowe.com/dcephalis.zip target=new>http://www.belowe.com/dcephalis.zip</a><br><br>There are pics on my Wolf3D News page at
<a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk</a>

Ok I got off my lazy ass and finished the new
design of the Wolfenstein 3D Mansion. Go check it out
and give me all of your comments, suggestions,
flames...whatever works for
you.<br><br>-Kenny<br><br><a href=http://www.wolf3dmansion.com target=new>http://www.wolf3dmansion.com</a>

Hi y'all,<br><br>Soon I'll post new graphics here. Wall panels. Plus, I'm busy on a new logo for DHW! Yes, yes.. Soon! <br><br>Anyone here wants to beta-test TFS 3.0? It's worth it(ask Ian)!

Rewspawing code DONE!!!!! Respawning enemies are now in the game.

What kinda feature would u like to see in my new tc?  Give me ideas I want things that other games don't have

I've made a new one. Hope you'll like it. It's in photos under "the new DHW Logo". Gimme comments!

FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REMOVE THE
GRAPHICS YOU STOLE FROM MY TC! <br><br><br>Ooops. Sorry,
wrong message. . . . ;-)<br><br>Anyways,<br><br>Hmm.
Let me think. Howz about you change the wall hight to
128x128? Sure it might take alooooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggg
time, but hey, you would have an original TC
altogether. I have not yet seen any new TC with 128x128 wall
hight.<br><br>-Leo (AKA, Captain_Sideburns)

My main complaint about it is that I think it's
too big. I don't know what kind of site Greg is
designing, but most site banners are 450x150 or around those
lines. The logo took a long while to download on my
connection, and if Greg's got any other gfx on his page...You
have to consider that not everyone is using ISDN. My
banner is around 20KB and in GIF format, btw. Just
things to think about.<br><br>CW IV to be done
soon...home of the original "BJ-Busting-Through-Wall-Banner"!
:) :) :)<br><br><a href=http://wolf3dcastle.cjb.net/ target=new>http://wolf3dcastle.cjb.net/</a><br>-Ian

Yeah, Tristan's TFS 3.0 (aka TFS II) isn't too bad! :)<br><br>Good new VGA graphics. I especially like his "Read This!" look.<br><br>Anyway, looks promising.<br><br>-Ian

Hi Ian,<br><br>Thanks for the info, LOL. Hey,
it's better than it was. At least. I'll tell you how
to get your Read This! graphics match up correctly
soon. If you want, give a holler.<br><br>Take care for
now,<br><br>Tristan.<br><br>PS: You still owe me a reply to my mail you know ;)!

Big news :-). My game is coming along great 7
weapons have not been added instead of 6. And there will
be 2 projectile weapons!!! One is done and second is
getting touched up screenshots will soon be available.
Get ready cause this game is awsome.

Second Projectile weapon is now done!!!!  7 weapons in total so far.  All my goals that I set for this game should happen

Did you even read my post?

Yes Tristan... I read your post... Thankyou for
taking the time to work on your graphic...
Unfortunately, I didn't ask for it and the manor in which you
posted makes it seem like I did. <br><br>As for changing
the club graphic.... lets see what the others in the
club have to say... personally, I don't think it's so
much as to what the graphic looks like, it's the
quality of the people and the posts that make the club
what it is... <br><br>Thanks... <br><br>Greg

My birthday is tommorow so what are you all
planning on giving me eh?<br><br>LOL just playin with yall
about the presents, I've gotten lots of feedback on the
new Mansion. I guess people like it
=)<br><br>later,<br><br>-Kenny

Hi Tank,<br><br>No you didn't ask for it. See it as a gift. You're free to do with it what you want.<br><br>Bye now,<br><br>Tristan

Going to start updateing my site but i don't now what else 2 put on it so if ANYONE has any ideas please just email me at maximuspig@... .<br><br>Daniel<br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>

Glad you liked the pic that much, MCS :) I see you must have liked it too Greg :)<br><br>And no! I won't be contributing to "Gayenstein"!

Homophobe ;) LOL j/k<br><br>-Ian

This set has some good graphics/sounds. There's also a new exe. There are pics, more info and the download on Sam's Wolfenstein 3-D Page at <a href=http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/gorenstein.htm target=new>http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~brlowe/gorenstein.htm</a>

Once again it's the weekly reminder about the
club chat... with the problems that we've been
experiencing with the Yahoo Java Chat... We've moved the chat
to a new home...<br><br>I've done some research and
found a quiet little server that will meet our needs...
<br><br>First, you'll need an IRC chat program... Like mIRC or
Pirch... Personally, I use mIRC... You can find it at
<a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a> (for those who don't have a chat program. Once
you've installed it.. Add the server
www.bytecenter.com<br><br>ie in mIRC: <br>Description : Whatever you wish to
call it.<br>IRC_Server: www.bytecenter.com<br>Port:
6667 <br><br>Then save... And connect... the room will
be DieHardWolfers and my nickname is Tank_Drvr.
<br><br>I'll also monitor the club chat to direct over those
that don't get this message.<br><br>What time... well,
I visited the world time clock again, <br>and here
are the times:<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm -
Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England, Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm -
Eastern Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central
Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am
- Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code... <br><br>Hope
to see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I was looking around and i found <br><br>The KB3D
is a simple wolfenstein type engine for DOS written
in QBasic from Dieter Marfurt (
dietermarfurt@... ) <br>Texturemapped othrogonal walls <br>Ceiling
and floor mapping <br>Sprite objects with mask
<br>Moving enemies <br>Soundblaster support <br>Support for
GIF textures <br>QBasic source <br>A screenshot and
the package with mapeditor, demogame and source can
be found
at<br><a href=http://www.angelfire.com/id2/qbkaboom/ target=new>http://www.angelfire.com/id2/qbkaboom/</a><br><br>More engines can be found at
<a href=http://cg.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ki/engines.html target=new>http://cg.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ki/engines.html</a><br><br>check it out
<br><br>Daniel.<br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>

Can anyone help me out with this? "Netscape is
unable to create a network socket connection." Internet
Explorer won't load anything. I think maybe it is a corupt
winsock thingamajigger but am not sure. I've reinstalled
both browsers but it makes no difference. I guess I'm
going to have to resort to wiping my hard drive and
starting from scratch...<br>Unless there is some sort of
miracle tonight I won't be at the club chat. If anyone
can help please do!<br>Thanks<br>Ian<br>PS @Tristan,
I got your email-I will reply as soon as I can.
Sorry.

Sorry to hear that Quin... <br><br>You might want
to try un-installing the browsers first before
re-installing... and while you're at it... you might want to
un-install the dial-up networking... then re-install that
first... <br><br>Hope that helps.. <br><br>Greg

I haven't posted for a long while now, so I
thought I might have to just so that everyone knows I'm
still here!<br><br>About that QB 3D engine, I got a
hold of that a while back and fooled around with it
for a while. It can be great fun if you want to
create a small game :)

The chat is on over at the bytecenter server... read the previous message about the chat if you aren't sure how to get there.. <br><br>Greg

Dear all,<br><br>What I'm writing to you here is
Wolfenstein related. Well, it's more related to my attitude
I've shown in the Community. Over the past time that
I'm in this community, I've had various emails,
flames and points that I'm way TOO wanting to be seen
and to help out. I realise now that I've been that
way. I've counted the mails about this; 4 of 'em.
That's 4 too many. I'd like to thank the people who
wrote these mails from here. I really don't want to be
hated, feared or whatever. I just want you all to like
me because I like you all, dammit(and no, I'm not
homosexual if that's what you make up of this sentence)! I
know, it's not done the way I do it. But I'll stop
doing it like this. I just keep it to my games and
site, and I won't, I repeat, won't ever help anyone out
anymore(read: unless they ask).<br><br>Second, in this old
strategy I've probably hurt people. Those who feel like
that, please contact me at tvanputten@.... ALL of
you who are hurt, feel disregarded, abandoned,
disrespected or whatever not-good, contact me. All of you who
I've promised to do something but forgot or plainly
didn't do, please contact me too. I'll still do it if
it's necessary. But nevertheless contact me.<br><br>To
all those I haven't spoken with for months: please
contact me. I'll start mailing you again. And now I'll be
capable of that. School now allows to write emails at
school during the breaks.<br><br>Thanks for your
attention.<br><br>Tristan van Putten<br>tvanputten@...

my sight is up its under construction still it is called The Wolf3d Heaven and Hell Sight:<br><br><a href=http://members.tripod.com/boytoy31/welcome_to_the_wolf3d.htm target=new>http://members.tripod.com/boytoy31/welcome_to_the_wolf3d.htm</a><br><br>tell me what u think

well, bro tank...i already named my site wolf3d heaven......

In the album Members Photo's - See Who's Who. Under Daniel. Tell me what you think did you expect me to look like i do.<br><br>Daniel<br><a href=http://www.pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://www.pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>

Hey Martin... <br><br>Hadn't heard from you...
Did you get the source<br>mods that I sent to you via
e-mail and what do you think... Is that what you
wanted... <br><br>I hope that is... as it would be great to
give Steve the other 26 wall tiles to work with for
the release of SOD2.<br><br>I tested the pushwall
thing... first mapedit will not put a pushwall on any
graphic over 64, so that<br>solves one problem, but I did
notice the graphic switch problem if a normal wall is
made pushable next to a 64+ wall.. I know it's a small
bug...<br>and hopefully I can rid the code of that one too.. If
I can't, it's a small limitation that can easily be
avoided in map creation anyhow.<br><br>But I've tested it
with Level 5 and some other <br>map scenarios that I
had kicking around and I can't see any problems with
it other than that..<br><br>Hope it worked for you
too... If not, let me know and I'll attach the .C source
to another e-mail so it's easier to import... That's
so much easier than working with the logs and
re-typing... LOL... <br><br>Anyhow... Chat with you later..
<br><br>Greg<br><br>P.S. See what people miss when they don't visit the
weekly chats... besides the friendly chat... there's
always source fragments being worked on, discussed, or
handed out...

Hey Greg,<br><br>Had some overtime to do last
night, so I didn't get the chance to reply any
sooner.<br><br>Yes, I got the 64+ mods you sent me. At first glance,
they seem to work OK. I'll give them a more thorough
test tonight.<br>As for the pushwalls, it's easy to
circumvent the MapEdit 64+ restriction by placing the
pushwall first and the wall tile second... but as you
said, both the pushwall tile and the adjacent tiles
will "fall back" to their below-64 equivalent during
the sliding process, so placing pushwalls in 64+
tiles is a no no so far. <br>As we planned to place
only "scenario" tiles in the above 64-area, this
shouldn't be considered a major problem.<br><br>I'll keep
you informed... Many thanks for the cooperation so
far, it's been a pleasure!<br><br>Martin.

To everyone I need your help with something
major.....My wolf3d keys are kinda fuc*ed up. Sometimes when
wolf3d loads up the keyboard won't read them, everything
else mouse joy stick but not the keyboard. Help me out
please

I take it you have no probs with your keyboard in
any other program? Does the problem occur in every TC
or Wolf/SOD game you have? I'm just wondering - if
the keyboard configuration is different from the
standard setup, could it possibly be conflicting with
something else occasionally? Have you tried deleting the
config.wl6 file? And, if you're running it from Win95/98,
what are the properties for the Wolf
executable/shortcut? As for Win2k, well, that doesn't have full DOS
support, so I'm not certain on that one.<br><br>If it's a
coding problem, then I'm sure Greg or MCS could
help.<br><br>Take care,<br>Steve

Hi all,<br><br>I've just given my site a major
overhaul. I guess after looking at Kenny's & Ian Franken's
sites, it inspires you - although it still isn't quite
on a par with those sites though :)<br><br>But, I've
added a whole heap of new features to it now - it was
rather disjointed and haphazard before. Also, I've tried
to make it a little more "entertaining". Plus,
there's quite a bit of interesting information on the TC
I'm working on with MCS (SOD2, or "Spear
Resurrection" for copyright purposes), plus a whole heap of new
screenshots etc that, unlike the last screenshots, give a
much better indication as to the features of the
finished game as well as showing what it will look like.
There's a features list now also, so you can get an idea
of the coding alterations that MCS has been working
on for SOD2.<br><br>The site's address
is:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/areyep/index.html target=new>http://www.geocities.com/areyep/index.html</a><br><br>Rest assured, this TC will not become "vapourware" :)

Areyep... <br><br>Great Site... And all I can say
is WOW! SOD2 is going to be amazing... really...
Those Screenshots are fantastic. I can hardly
wait.<br><br>Keep up the good work, and I hope you like the 26
extra wall tiles that are now available to you. I know
there are a few small limitations, but I think you'll
be more than able to work around
them.<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I need alot of help for the matrix, my upcoming
project!!! The only thing i really need help on is the
source code. I can't get the damn borland compiler to
work right! This is extremely important, if any of you
would like to help me, PLEASE DO. I need help very
badly. I'll give you credit if you do!!!<br><br>if you
wish to help, please email
me,<br>selong_chiang@...<br><br>thanks<br>-sam

Hi Sam... <br><br>The problem that most people
have with the compiler is that the instructions most
sites have for setting it up are
vague...<br><br>First... <br>Create a directory on a drive... for the
example I'll use C drive... so at the C:\> prompt we
create BORLANDC.<br><br>If you are using the BC31.zip
file from Kenny's site.. then unpack it in a temp
directory and run the installer program... tell it to
install into the directory that you created...
<br><br>When it's done installing... you need to get to the
command prompt C:\> and edit the autoexec.bat
file.<br><br>In the autoexec.bat file find the path command and
add to it
;C:\BORLANDC\BIN;C:\BORLANDC\INCLUDE<br><br>So if your path was:<br>Path
C:\Windows\command;C:\Windows <br><br>it would now be:<br><br>Path
C:\Windows\command;C:\Windows;C:\BORLANDC\BIN;C:\BORLANDC\INCLUDE<br><br>when that is done.. save the file and reboot the
computer... Once it has reloaded... you start MS-DOS and
install the wolf source... Install it where it wants to
go... ie: if it wants C:\WOLFSRC then install it
there... <br><br>Once installed... change into that
directory and type BC ... the compiler should start and
load the wolfenstien project file immediately...
<br>The go to Options and select Directory's <br><br>the
first directory line should be:<br>C:\BORLANDC\INCLUDE
<- this is using my example from above.<br>The next
should be:<br>C:\BORLANDC\LIB <- where the c
libraries are.<br>The next line should
read:<br>OBJ<br><br>and the last line... leave it blank...
<br><br>Exit... and it will save the information...
<br>Restart... and you should now be able to compile the game
properly.. <br><br>Hope that helps.. <br>Greg

thanks brother tank,<br>that might be the
case.<br>This is the directions i use to set up borland, right
after i install it (thanks to quinncey):<br><br>1:
Unzip the source code to a folder called �source�<br>2:
Unzip or install Borland to a folder called �tc�<br>3:
Copy the source code and paste it into the directory
C:\tc\bin <br>4: Create a new folder called �project� in
the C drive<br>5: Run Borland from C:\tc\bin<br>6:
When you�re in Borland go to the �options� menu and
select �directories�<br>7:Change the directories to
this:<br><br>-Include Directories-<br>C:\TC\INCLUDE<br><br>-Library
Directories-<br>C:\TC\LIB<br><br>-Output Directory-<br>C:\PROJECT<br><br>-Source
Directory-<br>C:\SOURCE<br><br>8: Scroll down in the project window at the bottom
of the screen until you get to GAMEPAL.OBJ and
SIGNON.OBJ. Delete those two files and press your insert key.
While browsing in that window double click Source\ then
double click OBJ\ Then you will see SIGNON.OBJ and
GAMPAL.OBJ. Click on GAMEPAL.OBJ and click Add. Do the same
thing for SIGNON.OBJ.<br>9: When your finished click
�compile� then click �build all� in the menu<br>10: Now go
to your original Wolfenstein directory and copy all
of those WL6 files. Then go to C:\project and paste
them into the folder.<br>11: Copy the correct VGA
files that you downloaded and paste them into the
project folder overwriting the old ones.<br>12: Now go
back to Borland and click �compile� then �link
all�<br>13: That�s it! If it works properly that�s the hard
part over and done with.<br> <br>Right next up. You
asked me how to change the ceiling colours. This is
simple, here goes: (note to change the ceiling colours
you will need the wolfpal gif file attached. I got
this from BJ Rowans site) <br>1: Open the WL_DRAW.C
file<br>2: Go to line 946 or do a text search for
�vgaceiling�<br>3: Okay, now you will see a huge mess of letters and
numbers, separated by commas. They all start with "0x",
and are followed by 4 characters, usually a
combination of letters and numbers. These are hexadecimal
values. They represent the palette index number for a
particular colour in the Wolfenstein palette. A colour
index, by the way, is which position in the palette
(00-ff in hex, 0-255 in decimal) each colour is stored
at. Notice how the first line starts with a whole
bunch of "0x1d1d"'s. "1d" is hex for 29. Palette index
29 is that dull, boring grey that is the entirety of
Episode 1.<br>4: To change these consult the wolfpal
file. You will find it pretty easy. <br>5: When you
have your new colours inputted save the file and
compile.<br>6: That�s it run the game from the projects folder
and you will see the changes<br><br>Okay now I will
show you how to change the music. This is also really
easy.<br>1: Open up WL_PLAY.C <br>2: Go down to line 105 or
do a text search for �int songs�<br>3: Right now you
will see a whole pile of stuff like GETTHEM_MUS and
SEARCHN_MUS these are the music files, if you are used to
Wolfenstein 3-D you will recognise them from the different
levels. <br>4: To change it just enter a new name into
the slot (told you this was easy!)<br><br>Now if you
want to change the music for the menu or the high
scores do this:<br>1: Open up WL_MENU.C and do a text
search for �_MUS�<br>2: That�ll find them all<br>3:
Again change, save, compile and test! <br><br>Sorry
quinncey if your directions are wrong...<br><br><br>please
tell me if that way is right, or
wrong<br><br>thanks<br><br>-sam

opps, i copied a little extra stuff on there. dont mind it.

Wow... <br><br>You don't need the source in the
TC directory... <br>doing that only makes a mess of
your hard-drive... I like things neat... so TC has
it's own directory... the source has it's own..
<br><br>The thing that you are missing in all of Quinnsey's
instructions are adding to the path command in the
autoexec.bat file. You still need the "include" path for it to
work properly. <br><br>It's more organized to keep
your source and game in different directories.
<br><br>Use the instructions that I suggested.. Trust me as
it works.. it really does.. and I haven't had a
problem compiling the code. If you use what I
suggested... you can start BC from anywhere on your system,
from any drive and any directory.<br>Thus you can have
seperate directories for each source that you are working
on.<br><br>As for Quinnseys other tutorials on how to change
ceiling and such... yes he is right. You can use his
tutorials or a few of the others out there.. <br><br>Greg

Same,<br><br>When you are compiling the source
code you shouldn't make ANY changes until it's
successfully compiled.<br><br>My directions on the Mansion
will get you to compile if you follow them step by
step and do nothing but what I
say.<br><br><br><a href=http://www.wolf3dmansion.com/source.phtml target=new>http://www.wolf3dmansion.com/source.phtml</a><br><br>-Kenny

errr Sam ;)

Um you don't need to do anything to the autoexe file...hehe I never did.<br><br>-Kenny

I just picked up the new PC Gamer magazine, and it has a great article with screen shots about the new Wolf. It says it will come out in the fall. It looks awesome!<br><br>Joey

Actually Kenny... It's best that you do... I
installed from the original "Borland C++ 3.1" disks and
that is how it made changes to the Autoexec.bat file..
<br><br>It allows you to run BC from any directory on your
system for one... and in doing so it allows you access
to the include files that are in the
Borlandc\Include directory. <br><br>Greg

Thanks guys...<br>um...i dont wanna start a fight or anything but ill try both ways. obviously, im all new to source code ill try my best.<br><br>-sam

Hay i added my photo a little while back did anyone see it. Its in the Members Photo's - See Who's Who under Daniel Well take a look.<br><br>Daniel <br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>

i still need help....<br>ok here are the
directions from kenny's site:<br><br>Step 1.) Goto Drive C
and unzip the source code to a folder named
source.<br><br>Step 2.) Install the source code to
/source.<br><br>Step 3.) Goto Drive C and unzip your Borland 3.0 zip
into a folder named tc.<br><br>Step 4.) Goto C:\tc\bin
. Unzip your source code into that folder, and
install it in this directory: /tc/bin<br><br>Step 5.)
Goto Drive C and create a new folder called
project.<br><br>Step 6.) Goto C:\tc\bin and run Borland.<br><br>Step
7.) While in Borland in the top toolbar goto
Options-Directories and set your directories like
this:<br><br>-Include Directories-<br>C:\TC\INCLUDE<br><br>-Library
Directories-<br>C:\TC\LIB<br><br>-Output Directory-<br>C:\PROJECT<br><br>-Source
Directory-<br>C:\SOURCE<br><br>Step 8.) Scroll down in the project window at the
bottom of the screen in borland until you get to
GAMEPAL.OBJ and SIGNON.OBJ. Delete those two files and press
your insert key. While browsing in that window double
click Source\ the double click OBJ\ Then you will see
SIGNON.OBJ and GAMPAL.OBJ. Click on GAMEPAL.OBJ and click
Add. Do the same thing for SIGNON.OBJ.<br><br>Step 9.)
After you've done all of that, in the top tool bar goto
Compile-Build All.<br><br>Step 10.) Now goto your Wolfenstein
directory and copy all of those WL6 files. Then goto
C:\project and paste them into the folder.<br><br>Step 11.)
Extract the correct VGA files you downloaded into
C:\project. OVERWRITE THE OLD ONES!!!<br><br>Step 12.) Go
back to Borland and click Compile-Link NOT BUILD
ALL!!!<br><br><br><br>thats the way i do it.<br>i only need help when i have
to "After you've done all of that, in the top tool
bar goto Compile-Build All." (step 9)<br><br>please
help.<br>-sam

Do just what it says...click the compile tab....and then click build all...then you're all done...

See Kenny... By your own instructions you are
telling him and everyone that you must copy the source
code INTO your \TC\BIN directory... <br><br>Try using
the method that I posted.. You have only your
BorlandC in that directory and can work on as many
different versions of the source as you wish. There is
never a need to copy anything source code wise into the
\TC\Bin directory.<br><br>By adding, to the path, in your
case, ie:<br><br>;C:\TC\BIN;C:\TC\INCLUDE<br><br>It
opens up alot more options when playing with the code.
I say that because I use the following for my
source directories:<br><br>C:\WOLFSRC <- Base
Directory<br>C:\WOLFSRC\WOLF <- Where my wolf3d full is
stored<br>C:\WOLFSRC\WOLFS <- Where the shareware Wolf
is<br>C:\WOLFSRC\SPEAR <- Where full SOD is
Stored<br>C:\WOLFSRC\SPEARSRC <- Spear Source Code
Version<br>C:\WOLFSRC\WOLFSRC <- Wolf Version Source
Code<br>C:\WOLFSRC\WOLFCOL <- MCS's Wolfcol Version of
Source<br>C:\WOLFSRC\TOTEN <- Toten Version of the
Source<br>C:\WOLFSRC\BW2SE <- Nayt's Version of the
Source<br>C:\WOLFSRC\FLODEMO <- Flo's Version of the
Source<br>C:\WOLFSRC\QUINN <- The Source I'm doing for
Quinnsey<br>C:\WOLFSRC\ME <- My Wolfenstein Source code<br><br>Then I
also store all my graphics and map editors in other
directories, but you can see the idea. <br>I can pop into and
of the source directories, type BC, be in the
compiler... Make changes and compile without doing any
copying at all. <br>To run it of course, it must be
copied into another directory from the OBJ directory of
the current source I'm working with... Hence the one
directory I now mention... C:\WOLFSRC\TESTBED<br><br>I've
got about 8 different versions of the source<br>that
I'm currently modifying or looking at. And I don't
have a problem compiling any of them.<br><br>It really
keeps things organized... and is less confusing. Trust
me... Just try it my way... You might find that you
actually like it.... And you might see that while others
do things a little differently.. it's a matter of
choice. I was just trying to give him some help.. Not
shoot you or anyone in specific down.<br><br>To Sam: If
you want to do it Kenny's way, I don't have a problem
with that... Whatever works for you. I offered to help
with the instructions that I use here and I stand by
that. It works for me.. Its your choice as to which is
best for you...

Sam,<br><br>I'm no coding expert - other than
making basic changes, I can't do a great deal else. I
first compiled the wolf exe thanks to the instructions
from Kenny's site - it worked fine, but I have source
code in places that make things seem a little messy -
my organisation skills I suppose. In short, Kenny's
method works fine.<br><br>But, Greg knows what he's
talking about - he and MCS love the coding side of the
game, and know a hell of a lot about code related
matters. I have a lot of respect for their opinions on
such matters.<br><br>Take care,<br>Steve

Hey, so....when is the weekend chat going to take place? I am in the UK so...What time, Look forward to the chat.<br><br>Veteran Wolf

Once again it's the weekly reminder about the
club chat... with the problems that we've been
experiencing with the Yahoo Java Chat... We've moved the chat
to a new home...<br><br>I've done some research and
found a quiet little server that will meet our needs...
<br><br>First, you'll need an IRC chat program... Like mIRC or
Pirch... Personally, I use mIRC... You can find it at
<a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a> (for those who don't have a chat program. Once
you've installed it.. Add the server
www.bytecenter.com<br><br>ie in mIRC: <br>Description : Whatever you wish to
call it.<br>IRC_Server: www.bytecenter.com<br>Port:
6667 <br><br>Then save... And connect... the room will
be DieHardWolfers and my nickname is Tank_Drvr.
<br><br>I'll also monitor the club chat to direct over those
that don't get this message.<br><br>What time... well,
I visited the world time clock again, <br>and here
are the times:<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm -
Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England, Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm -
Eastern Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central
Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am
- Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code... <br><br>Hope
to see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

but when i click "build all", i get nothing but a bunch of errors.....<br><br>sam

you must not be doing something right..<br><br>-Kenny

This will allow you to add 9 more static sprites
to your TC:<br><br>Use FloEdit and add 9 new sprite
pictures to your vswap... <br><br>In wl_def.h go down
to:<br><br>		SPR_CHAINREADY,SPR_CHAINATK1,SPR_CHAINATK2,SPR_CHAINATK3,<br>		SPR_CHAINATK4,<br><br>and modify it so that it
says:<br><br>		SPR_CHAINREADY,SPR_CHAINATK1,SPR_CHAINATK2,SPR_CHAINATK3,<br>		SPR_CHAINATK4,<br><br>		SPR_STAT_48, // Xtra Object 1<br>		SPR_STAT_49, // Xtra
2<br>		SPR_STAT_50, // 3<br>		SPR_STAT_51, // 4 <br>		SPR_STAT_52, //
5<br>		SPR_STAT_53, // 6<br>		SPR_STAT_54, // 7<br>		SPR_STAT_55, //
8<br>		SPR_STAT_56, // 9<br><br><br>Then in wl_act1.c:<br><br>Search
for {SPR_STAT_26,bo_clip2}, // Clip Dropped By Guards
"<br><br>and add the following:<br><br>{SPR_STAT_48}, //
Object 1 <br>{SPR_STAT_49}, // 2<br>{SPR_STAT_50}, //
3<br>{SPR_STAT_51}, // 4<br>{SPR_STAT_52}, // 5<br>{SPR_STAT_53}, //
6<br>{SPR_STAT_54}, // 7<br>{SPR_STAT_55}, // 8<br>{SPR_STAT_56}, //
9<br><br>To make them blocking you would use:
{SPR_STAT_48,bo_block},<br>Valid modifiers for the sprites are found in wl_def.h
... <br>just look for the bo_ values and you will
find all the <br>options you have.. <br><br>Then to
enable them for use in mapediting... edit the
objdata.wl6 file<br>for mapedit and add:<br><br>0048 e00n
Object 1<br>0049 f00+ Object 2<br>004a f00 Object
3<br>004b f00� Object 4<br>004c f00x Object 5<br>004d d00x
Object 6<br>004e c00B Object 7<br>004f b00P Object
8<br>0050 a00A Object 9<br><br><br>Of course the Object #
above would be replaced with the appropriate<br>name of
the object in your vswap.. ie if it's a blue light
you might<br>have something like:<br><br>0048 e00n
Blue Floor Light<br><br><br>That's it... edit your
map.. insert the new sprites... compile
your<br>source... get the maps and new exe together, and if all
went well <br>you should have 9 new sprites. If the
program crashes, then you have<br>added too many items.
There is only a 64k data area that the game<br>has to
work with. I've found that with little code
modification you<br>can add these 9... with lots of mods, it
could be less... or more <br>depending if you've freed
up part of the 64k data memory.<br><br>This is just
one of many tutorials that will be on the club
homepage once I get things done.. This tutorial is of my
own work... So if you use it, or those of others,
remember to give the author credit.<br><br>Greg - aka -
BrotherTank<br><br>PS: This is a small sampling of what a few of us chat
about in the weekly chat, besides which TC was the most
inovative, which inspired us the most and more... And also 3
people were given founder status for their support and
dedication to the club.

One part was missing from the last post.. cutting
and pasting into this editor isn't the greatest...
here's what was omitted...<br><br>Then modify wl_game.c:
search for the routine ScanInfoPlane<br><br>and add the
following after case 70:<br><br>			case 71: // Object
1<br>			case 72: // 2<br>			case 73: // 3<br>			case 74: //
4<br>			case 75: // 5<br>			case 76: // 6<br>			case 77: //
7<br>			case 78: // 8<br>			case 79: // 9<br><br>Save and
compile your source...

How is that someone can be given the programmer
of the year award when they used the work of others
to achieve the goal? More like it should be called
the code assimilator of the year award.<br><br>Wow...
I think that really Blows my Mind!<br><br>So...
Congrats Tristan on your award and I look forward to your
ORIGINAL tutorials that will explain how you programed all
those nice features in TFS. <br><br>Any by the way...
Seeing as you are the Tops!, I guess that means that you
don't need the 64+ wall routine or the new seperate
door jam for each door type routine that I wrote. For
that matter, you shouldn't be needing any of MCS's
help either... <br><br>Just because I gave my work to
MCS and Areyep for inclusion in SOD2 doesn't mean
that you can ask the others for it... Try asking the
AUTHOR!<br><br>Guess what.. With praise comes all the benifits... Good
luck in the future! I wish you well and leave you with
the Immortal Words of someone named "Rubber Duck"
--> LEARN C++<br><br>As always...
<br>BrotherTank<br><br>PS... Am I pissed.. You Bet I Am!

Due to a major bug that couldn't be fixed I have
to restart my source:-(. If u think u guys are mad u
don't know nuttin. I had things in that source that u
couldn't imagine. But its better to be bug clean so I
already have started it so hopefully is ok in the end.

Hi all, it's me, Viktor<br>My d2 comunity just
died... hehe, there was about 400-500 messages every day,
and it was all offtopic.....<br>well, i still don't
know anything about coding, and i dun' work on an
addon right now, maybe i will start to work on one
later....<br>hmmm.... how many here remember me??, i can see ian, john
bucksnort, luke, kenny and som more guys here.....<br>well,
that's all for now...<br>/Viktor

Friendly civilians and chickens added into my source.....

Dear all, Dear Greg, Dear Martin,<br><br>I just
checked my mail again for a week(last period of this
school year really takes all free time off me -- Greg! I
wasn't a coward not to reply, sorry it took so long) and
saw this message. Now, with the risk of losing my
temper, my membership of DHW and, most importantly: 2
friends(you 2 Greg & Martin -- I really hope not!!!!!!!!)
>:( Bloody hell, my reputation doesn't get any better
of all this crap(oh what the hell, screw my
reputation, I'm now really angry and sorrowful).
<br><br>Greg, why so angry? Do you think I begged for that ugly
GIF file? NO! Greg, correct me if I'm wrong, but has
this been boiling within you since the last chat and,
thanks to that shitty award, bursted out? Please mail me
at tvanputten@...(if you even want to talk
with me) and explain what's wrong. If you don't hate
me for 100%. If you want to have this cleared. First
I p*ss off Ian, now it's you. Always someone gets
angry by my actions(although that wasn't intended by
me!). Some year this is!<br><br>-- continue to part 2
--

First Greg, I am 100% behind you that MCS(or
MARTIN as I always call him and as which he's LISTED IN
ALL VERSIONS OF TFS) should have earned that thing.
Hell, all I ever managed to find out that is somewhat
spectacular is the Read This! feature, multiple floor colors,
a breakable object and removing the Do Not
Distribute thing and add random sounds to the doors(at least
that's what I can think up ATM, MCS correct me if I'm
wrong). The rest, as I have always said(AND WHAT IS IN
THE READ THIS! AND WHEREEVER I'VE NOTED TFS!!!!), has
been cleared by "my Internet-uncle" Martin Bonnet. Or
MCS. Or Luckyspinner. Or WOlf3d4all. WHATEVER! I'm
just too bloody stupid to think it up myself.<br>Now,
I have a really good (or should I say "AWESOME" --
I have a billion of Dutch words for it, but I just
can't think up an English term for it right
now)relation to MCS. I don't want that to be worse. For
coding? NO! BECAUSE I LIKE HIM! Why I talk to you? To
know how the hell you did that exploding whatever it
was? NO! BECAUSE I LIKE YOU TOO! Sure, I'd love to
know all the stuff. But that's because I'm eager to
learn more things of the code the easy
way.<br><br>Second, I take it you just don't know MCS's real name.
That's why you didn't see him in the Read This! of TFS.
That's why you got angry right now. Now, follow me to
TFS3D.EXE, open up Read This! and go to page 19 of 24. Now,
what do you see there?<br><br>CODING
HELP/MUSICIAN<br>Martin Bonnet(MCS)<br><br>See it? SEE IT? DO YOU
ACTUALLY SEE IT?????? GOOD. Greg, I don't want to lose you
as a friend. Honestly. And yes, I do want those
extra wall tiles and whatever else you and MCS can
do.Why? Because I'm a thief? Because I disrespect you and
Martin? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Because I want TFS to have
nice features so that I(FOR MYSELF) like the game. So
that I think that it's worth to be uploaded. THAT'S
WHY!<br><br>Third, I've already added MCS in BOLD letters to the
readme feature of TFS 3.0. Since I don't know your full
name, I've referred to you as "BROTHERTANK". If you
tell me your full name, I'd be
thankful.<br><br>Lastly, I do apologize that the prize was going to me.
Now, Barry, if you read this, please remove the award
to me and give it to Martin Bonnet. The author of
Wolfenstein Collection and the upcoming, TFS and
Totengraeber-smashing(with their fingertips) TC "SPEAR RESURRECTION". If you
aren't willing to do that, remove the category "best
coder" at all. And please do understand that things like
awards and BEST this, BEST that, always make other
people feel disrespected. As you now know. Greg, I'm
really sorry that this happened. Martin, I'm
sorry.<br><br>Thanks for your time. I hope I've cleared it all up now.
I hope I've taken away the anger, the sorrow and
sadness that have arisen thanks to that stupid GIF file.
Long live Spear Resurrection, long live
MCS!<br><br>Heil unsere beste codierer Martin Bonnet!(not
associated with Heil Hitler, mind you). Long live our true
best coder Martin Bonnet! Lang leve onze allerbeste
coder Martin Bonnet! etc. etc. etc. in all languages...
Sorry, forgot how to say it in French ;) Phew! Sorry for
the bad language that may be here and there. But it
was the only way to let my feelings out.<br><br>Now,
take care you two and mail me if you feel like talking
about it: tvanputten@.... I gotta go to bed
now.<br><br>Good Night Greg. Welterusten Martin!<br><br>Tristan.

Let's comment out this one:<br><br>Barry,
<br><br>It wasn't that he got programmer of the year award
that offended me.. I couldn't care less.. I was
actually being sarcastic about it. <br>// Well, to be
honest, I haven't replied to Barry's message, but I was
going to say(honestly) that MCS earns the thing. But
then, it's just a stupid GIF file! No offense to
anyone, mind you!<br><br>What offended me is that he
really didn't code it.<br>The external ReadThis and
endgame screens were made possible with the aid of BJ
Rowan. BJ sent him the code. Alot of the other stuff was
by MCS (random door slots and more). Check the
credits... <br>// I found out the Read This! thing myself.
That's really true. I don't know how to prove it, but if
you open up WL_TEXT.C from my code, you'll see that I
achieved it in April or something of 2000. That means that
Toten code wasn't released, nor did I ever have contact
with BJ Rowan about it. Really! Oh well, you don't
believe me, so why should I even try?<br><br>Tristan
admitted in a conversation with myself, MCS and Areyep,
that TFS was not his original code. The reason we
confronted him was that he was Begging MCS for code features
that are to be included in SOD2. During that
conversation Tristan said that he wouldn't beg for routines
anymore.<br>// So it wasn't just about talking? It was an
interview to ask what I was doing? Talking about
unfriendly... Well organized, Greg!<br><br>I posted a message
on DieHardWolfers and this forum stating that I had
cracked the 64+ wall tiles for MCS and Areyep. Now guess
what Tristan did? He wrote MCS asking for MY routine
as well as some others of MCS's that are included in
SOD2. SOD2 hasn't been released yet... So why would
anyone give up their hard work so that someone else can
put it out and get credit. <br><br>// In MCS's
letter, he said, while I didn't even ask -- I asked how
to add the walls to the Mapedit file when you have
more than in Spear. That means, above 003F. He said:
That's quite a technical story I haven't finalized yet
-- I'm still working on it -- but when I find it out
I'll keep you posted. RIGHT MARTIN?????<br><br>He
doesn't respect anyone... He could have asked me for the
64+... But no.. He goes behind my back. That is NOT
respect! Hence that is where my anger came from. <br>// I
respect you. I respect MCS. I respect everyone. Only
because of this? NOOOOOOO! I really respect you all. And
second, I haven't been around that much anymore -- see my
open letter -- School takes much of my time right
now.<br><br>His own words from the chat were something to the
effect "that he didn't really code TFS, as it was
everyone elses work".<br>// Well, I said that TFS was made
possible by great help of MCS and other people. THAT
DOESN'T MEAN I CAN'T CODE ANYTHING!!!!!<br><br>The maps
were his.. As problematic as they were to begin with,
overall they weren't that bad (once you learn that he
likes to put static objects behind pushwalls so they
are non-functional and objects blocking paths to the
elevators).<br>// I know those maps were crappy. I've fixed most of
it. Yesterday I removed all bugs before the pushwalls
on levels 1-10. Now up for the next
11!<br><br>Anyhow... I've said enough on the subject. It's a moot
point. He will continue to beg, borrow and steal all
that he can and not give credit where credit is due.
That's his way.. He doesn't know any better.. <br>// Hey
Greg, how good do you know me, really? I've had a chat
with you around 2 times. All right, I've been at DHW
Chat twice, but that wasn't all that long. It's not
very friendly to judge me on these things you
heard.<br><br>Hoping to have it cleared,<br><br>Tristan.

Well it's about time you came back...think I've
only been begging you back for two months now
;)<br><br>Forget D2...does D2 have Nazis that scream like girls
when they die? Does D2 let you heal bloody wounds with
chicken dinners? Didn't think so (and btw, thanks to
Chokan for that great summary...makes me proud to be a
Wolfer) ;) Ok, never mind the fact that D2 is one of the
best games ever made, but so is Wolf ;)<br><br>Anyway,
see you around...<br><br>-Ian

Well it was too good to be true ;) But
whatever...<br><br>Tristan, I don't think it's right to use a feature that
somebody came up with out of their own hard work in your
own add-on first before they have a chance to use it
unless they gave you permission to do so. Personally, I
don't care if Greg posted his 64+ tiles code on this
board...unless he said we could use it freely I would let him
use it first in his game since he did it and he
deserves full credit. If I used it, I would go down as the
first man to ever have 64+ wall panels in my game and
people would credit me for it...not right.<br><br>Golden
rule: Never use a feature that was made by someone else
that is planning on using it in their own TC before
they themselves get a chance to use it. Simple as
that.<br><br>There are of course variations:<br><br>I came up with
random guard sounds and later found out that Kenny and
MCS were doing that in their TCs. However, we were
all doing it without any intervention from another
so...it was cool. It was a small mod anyway and things
like that were bound to happen. Now in the case of
things like, say, graphics and storylines...if your
graphics and storyline were anything like another's and
you didn't know about it until you went to release
your game, don't release your game...if anything it's
for your own public image. <br><br>Whatever...dowse
the flames with water, not gasoline...<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I am quite aware that MCS's real name is
Martin Bonnet, but for the most part I type MCS because
that is the name that most people know him by.
<br><br>As for the Credits, yes... I know he was mentioned
many pages in... that is why I said read the credits.
<br><br>You say that you figgured out how to do the "Read
This" on your own, but you also say that you did it
before BJ Rowan sent you the information. Yet, you
boasted about BJ sharing the routine with you and that
you would turn it into a tutorial for everyone else.
<br><br>Funny, when someone does something amazing with the
code... You have to ask them for it. And if they send it
to you, low and behold you've already done it.
Amazing. <br><br>Did you attempt to ask Martin again for
the exploding barrel routine after you were told in
chat in front of witnesses, that you would have to
wait for SOD2 to be released before any of it's source
would be made public. Yes. <br><br>Did you also ask in
that same message for the 64+ routine? Yes. Yes, it is
in fact using the walls above the normal built into
the game (Above hex 39). Hence the title given as
64+. Who wrote it? Me. Who did you ask for it... Not
me.. Why did you ask the other person... because 1.
you figgured I'd say no... and 2. I posted that I'd
sent the information to that person.<br><br>Does that
give me reason to get upset. Yes.<br><br>Did you
create a graphic saying here, this is what you asked
for, and can use it for the club. <br>Yes.. Was it
asked for.. NO. Was I mad.. No, just disappointed.
<br><br>I get the feeling sometimes, that you do these
things, so that in your mind, we owe you in return and
that justifies your actions somehow. <br><br>You seem
to want from everyone... We asked you in chat.. to
wait... you couldn't... Martin and I even explained it..
And yet you still asked for things again. Does it
bother me... Yes about my routine. Does it bother the
others.. Probably, but you'd have to ask them. Why do I
say probably, if it didn't bother them, they wouldn't
bring it up in the first place. <br><br>Anyhow...
Enough said, you've done the deed. <br>Am I mad now..
No, just disappointed once again that you seem to
feel that everything should be given to you. I'm glad
that I took the time to get it off my chest and make
it known to the members. <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Does anyone even care if I release Sorcerers Wrath or any other tc's?

Dear Greg,<br><br>I did indeed say that I figured
out how to do the "Read This!" on my own, which is
the truth. What I asked for at the Alliance(which you
are probably referring to) is this:<br><br>"Say,does
anybody know how to change the color of the cyan border
around the game's screen(and that one you see in the
Intermission screen)???"<br><br>And BJ's reply was:<br><br>Hey
Tristan,<br><br>Yes, I know how to change the screen border color /
intermission screen background color. I changed it to gray in
Project Totengraeber so it would match the status bar. I
can't remember offhand how to do it...I'm at work right
now; when I get home tonight I'll look it up and
re-post with the info. It's kind of obscure; took me some
playing around to find it.<br><br>BTW, the intermission
screen bgcolor and game screen border color are actually
two separate values, as I recall, so you could make
them two different colors if you wanted."<br><br>See?
No Read This! or whatsoever. If you follow me to
belowe.demon.co.uk you'd see that in August or so last year, when I
first came around, I already had that feature in TFS. I
didn't know anyone yet, I just sent Brian Lowe a mail to
see what he would say.<br><br>About the Club graphic:
Well, it was a rainy Sunday afternoon, I was bored, TFS
was on my computer at home and I was at my
grandparents. so I decided, why not do Greg a favour(at least I
thought I was doing that) and draw a new title screen for
DHW. I thought that would look nice. Since Ian told me
that "my talents" were shaped up(in that matter of
speaking, right?), so I thought I could do that. And so I
posted first a message that I was busy, then that it was
complete and I had uploaded it. Let me see here, did I
say: this is what you asked for? Hmm.. Can't
remember.(looking up the message). All I said was:<br><br>"I've
made a new one. Hope you'll like it. It's in photos
under "the new DHW Logo". Gimme comments!"<br><br>and:
"Soon I'll post new graphics here. Wall panels. Plus,
I'm busy on a new logo for DHW! Yes, yes.. Soon!
<br><br>Anyone here wants to beta-test TFS 3.0? It's worth
it(ask Ian)!".<br><br>I'm sorry if that all sounded like
"here you go, this is what you wanted". Wasn't the
intention.<br><br>I didn't attempt to ask it after the chat. Okay, I
said: "Are you still going to reply to my mail?" and
Martin said "yes, but not to the Barrel, 'cause that's
new in SOD2 and has to remain new until the release.
You probably understand". See?<br><br>Well, for the
64+ routine(quote):<br><br>brothertank: hope to break
the 64+ thingy soon... I'll keep working on it..
<br>tvanputten: 64+? What do you mean?<br>wolf3d4all: 64+....
that's magic!<br>tvanputten: ?????<br>brothertank:
really... "<br><br>See? And ehm.. I didn't know you made
it. Cause, as said before, Martin said "I'm working
on it, when I fix it I'll keep you posted". Until
later I found out in your message that YOU had
completed it. Second, I don't even know your mail
adress!!!!!!!!!<br><br>About that I do these things, so that in my mind you
people owe me things in return and that justifies my
actions: That's really not my intention. Really. Not that
you will believe it, but I can tell you with an axe
on my head that it isn't. Stupid example, but you
get it.<br><br>Now, what do I do to make it up(if it
can be made up)?<br><br>Tristan

..

Wow! I'm a founder here now - thanks Greg
:)<br><br>It's just so tempting to go and change all the colours
and settings etc! Give AReyeP a new toy to play with,
and you're asking for trouble :)<br><br>Take care
:)<br>Steve

Yeah I just noticed today that I too am a founder
=) LOL Greg told me and Martin that we were both
elevated to founder-hood (is that a word?) in the chat but
I figured he was joking at the time! Anyway, like
you Steve I'm already thinking "Hmmm...green? Or
blue? Or...?" I'm sure Greg's already getting another
headache ;)<br><br>Well I'll just kick that weird
Wolf3d4all guy out since he contributes nothing here...oops!
;) J/K!<br><br>-Ian

Dear Greg and MCS,<br><br>I'm sorry that this all occured. All I can say now is that it was my fault and I'm sorry. Won't happen again.<br><br>Tristan

This is an 8 level set by Viper, which plays as
an add-on to 'Totengraeber'. It's a difficult set
with good level design and well placed guards. It's on
my news page, at
<a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a>

I just joined this club, but I also just now
realized the large amounts of egos involved in making
add-ons or Tcs. We are a small community that depends on
the support of all of us. We won't get anywhere by
flaming or arguing who did what originally because we're
not the Quake community, we're the Wolfenstein 3D
community! It takes extreme loyalty to stay with a
technically insuperior game! I salute all of you who helped
form this community, and for those of you who continue
to spark this comminity with life! But to keep this
comminity from perishing we do need support for
others.<br><br><br>May Wolf 3D live forever!

LOL!!<br><br>I gave founders status to those that
were deserving of it, and those that help to carry on
the spirit of Wolfenstein in a positive manor.
<br><br>If you must play... so be it... Honestly, I was
surprised that after I did it, someone hadn't gone and
changed things... <br><br>Anyhow... Have fun...
<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Yep.. it's here again... You've probably noticed
that this week I didn't send out the usual e-mail
about the chat... Sorry, was a little busy with work.
<br><br>Anyhow... here are the particulars for those wishing to
attend:<br><br>We've moved the chat to a new home...<br><br>I've done
some research and found a quiet little server that
will meet our needs... <br><br>First, you'll need an
IRC chat program... Like mIRC or Pirch... Personally,
I use mIRC... You can find it at
<a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a> (for those who don't have a chat program. Once
you've installed it.. Add the server
www.bytecenter.com<br><br>ie in mIRC: <br>Description : Whatever you wish to
call it.<br>IRC_Server: www.bytecenter.com<br>Port:
6667 <br><br>Then save... And connect... the room will
be DieHardWolfers and my nickname is Tank_Drvr.
<br><br>I'll also monitor the club chat to direct over those
that don't get this message.<br><br>What time... well,
I visited the world time clock again, <br>and here
are the times:<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm -
Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England, Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm -
Eastern Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central
Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am
- Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see alot more faces.
Let's see what will draw people to the chat... a chance
to beta test something... code snippets... complete
source to a previously released TC (but the source
wasn't)... <br><br>You'll have to visit the chat to find
out... <br><br>Besides... it's a great way to get to
know your fellow DieHard Wolfers... Discuss the
weather, your job, current events in the world news...
Whatever you'd like... it's your club chat and a chance to
participate... Get involved<br>and who knows.. you might win
something just by showing up.<br><br>Greg

Greg,<br>Dang, sure wish I didn't work the
weekends! Would love to chat with you guys, but am
generally either working or sleeping(because) I've worked a
bunch of shifts!<br><br>Perhaps, to intice more people
to join in, you might post sort of a chat log. Kinda
what went on, who was there...that sort of thing! Eh?
Just an idea.<br><br>Gray~

Anyone want to beta test Sorcerers Wrath?

nah, im too lazy...and I'm still recovering from the bloody split-lip my brother gave me. Don't worry, it's all good. ;)<br><br>sam

Sure thing Luke. Send it my way ;)

Hi All,<br><br>I finally took some time to post
something. Still 3 weeks to go before school's end. Yay! But
until then, it's learning, learning, learning(still
have a tests week to do). I also drew various graphics
for TFS 3.0 . Which can be seen by you in the Photos
section under Screen Shots from Addons and TC's. Here's a
description: <br><br>the 1st Guard(the bright grey suited one)
is the one I fancy the most. It's not done yet(still
need to do 20+ graphics, but I'm getting there --
matching up all graphics is the worst part!). I'm
completely redoing the guard(I can't really use the color
conditions of the original suit). It takes bloody much time!
I'm busy with this "kerl"(German for "fellow" or
"bloke") for 2 weeks now. But, it'll be worth it. But, I
don't have room for it yet. What do you
say?<br><br>Then the flags and the Verboten! sign. They took me a
whole day to get them to my liking. But, I think they
don't look that bad. They look like the original, but
differently. The 2-tile eagle was exported from WolfenDoom,
but when I've finished the guards, I'll give that
baby a facelift too. Well, if TFS won't be worth it
anymore for the coding, then it will be for it's GFX! The
barrel now; I took the barrel from Doom ][ and gave it
grey scale. I first gave it a green color, but that
looked too cartoony to me, so I kept it grey scale. I
used a brightening layer from PSP6(wonderful now that
I have it!) and voila; here it is.<br><br>The new
brown marble walls were already seen by you at the chat
2 weeks ago. But I just included them for your
info. The red guard was just a concept, I only made 16
different angles from this one. Took me 4 hours to get
right, but then I thought "hey, it's too cartoony!" and
so I dropped the idea. When TFS's done, I'll
probably finish it anyway -- for your GFX library ;). The
new Hans is one I already uploaded once at DHW. The
dark grey guard was based upon a photograph of a
Waffen-SS soldier. Not bad, but not good either. Again only
13 or so angles were made and got dropped. I've
completely finished the new Otto, I quite fancy him. He
looks better like this. I took the decorations from
Conflict in the Fatherland as you see. The red stone wall
was based upon the SOD tiles which you probably
remember! This one stinks IMHO. If you can use it
somewhere, feel free.<br><br>The HUGE wall pic was my first
adventure with a program my dad bought me yesterday; Corel
PhotoPaint 8! Cool program, has bloody many features, plus
it accepts all kinds of formats. Really cool.

First of all this "110% Drawn by me" graphics are bullshit, they are recolored sprites from Wolfenstein and that steel wall is erics with MY sign on it. Ditch it now.<br><br>-Kenny

not to mention DLA's recolored all, lol Tristan come up with your own ideas..no one likes theifs..<br><br>-Kenny

I based this graphics archive on the TVPWALLS.GIF
back at RealWolfers. That graphic was still on. Sorry.
But, what's wrong? Did I piss you off with something?
Sheesh. And what's "ditch it"? I guess nothing that good,
but please explain.<br><br>Tristan

Oh yeah, what I mean with 100% drawn by me is that I've redrawn it by myself. Not that I asked someone to do it. And yes, they are redrawn Wolfenstein images. So what?<br><br>Tristan

I guess some of you have wondered where I went
for about....2 months or so. The truth is my school
work. I'll be finished in a few days and I might come
back to wolf3d after that.<br><br>Yes, I'm still
working on WolfEx. I said it would be released and it
will be!

Bytecenter will be back up in about a day. Is anybody going back :) (hehe as if)

LOL what made me mad is this...hrmmm did you ask
dla to recolor his wall? Thought so...did you ask
Eric if you could use his steel wall? Thought so...Did
you ask me if you could use my sign? Thought
so....<br><br><br>-Kenny

People want the wolf3d world to grow but it never grows when we all fight against each other and it pisses me off off fuck.

I didn't even use that wall, dammit! I'm telling
you, it's still on from RW! And yes, I should have
taken them off, but then... I was too lazy. Man, I had
to post it in a hurry. Relax. It's just a graphic.
And then, I've never undergiven you any credit. Or
did I? At least in TFS 3.0 there's a TXT file with
all people who helped and with what.<br><br>Now it's
over. Stop attacking me, people! I know I'm wrong
sometimes, but then just say "that's not right, it's more
like ..." not "FUCK YOU Tristan". OK?<br><br>Tristan

No one little graphic is the world to be I need that one little graphic ahhhh lol:-).  anyways cut the bull shit out already lol

Dude chill out...lol I never said "fuck you tristan" I just told you to remove the walls that aren't "100% drawn by you"<br><br>-Kenny

I can understand the frustration (I've been there) but I must enforce one of the club rules... <br><br>NO FOUL LANGUAGE!<br><br>Please and Thanks... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Look I'm not taking anyone's side (I think you're
all a bit off actually) but there are some things we
need to think over.<br><br>#1: DHW for a long time was
superior to RW and it still is, but it won't be for long
if we keep this flaming up and don't stamp it out
now. Personally I don't want DHW to be reduced to that
and unless you like hardcore flaming you probably
don't want it to be reduced to that either.<br><br>#2:
The Wolf scene is small so therefore IMAGE COUNTS. By
flaming publicly you make this entire club look like
nothing but a joke as EVERYONE (primarily newbies) will
see this and not even consider our club for
joining...therefore we will never grow if we keep flaming.
<br><br>For the sake of this community and others, keep
flaming limited to email / chats, please. I'm not taking
sides but just saying it has to stop.<br><br>-Ian

Geez guys, <br>Stop the crap already! I know
Tristan has a lot of stolen graphics in his game, but
stop picking and yelling at him. When someone starts
yelling and name calling, it always starts a fight. We
nwwd the Wolf3d community to be together of other
people will think our community is crappy. If you want
to flame each other than dont post the messages in
public or don't flame each other at all! Many people
will just leave this club if they see too much
complaining around here. So, just STOP!<br><br>sam

Hey all if anyone knows how to add a backdrop pic can u please tell me thats all that is left in my source u will be added for helping.

All weapons are all done and they are awsome.

I hereby post that I will not EVER again do foul
language or flaming. I just got sick of all this flaming
stuff. There is already a club that doesn't like me
anymore. I'm talking about the Wolf3D Fan Club. "Stupid
Tristan van Putten and his obsession for
boats"...<br><br>Tristan

Yeah, I'll give it a run, send it on.<br><br>Haven't been around much, been working on a Quake 2 Mod (actually, just learning how to learn how to use Quark!)<br><br>Gr@y~<br>grayfriar2001@...

This is a four level set (including the secret
level) for Wolf 3D by Pablo Dictter. It plays as episode
two. Those who prefer the original graphics will like
this set as the levels are well designed.<br><br>Also
released recently is a new version (0.5) of 'The Road To
Despair' by Viper. The new levels have been increased to
12 (from 8). There's also changes to the VSWAP and
VGAGRAPH files. This set plays as an add-on to
'Totengraeber'.<br><br>You can get both sets from my news page at
<a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk</a>

Well, once again it's Saturday here in my
hometown, and that means it's another chat day here at the
club. <br><br>With the lack of people showing up at the
"IRC'd"<br>chat, those attending the last one decided to try
moving it back to the club page chat room... <br><br>So,
todays chat will be held here at the club.<br><br>The
times:<br><br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm - Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific
Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am - Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code... <br><br>Hope
to see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I've realized that I have missed almost every single chat. I'm just too busy on Saturdays. I might be able to chat today though. I still dunno yet.<br><br>Sam

does anyone know how to Make Exploding Barrols? I know MCS does, but do you want to tell me?<br><br>- James

MCS... Any chance that I could get an inside look at that exploding barrels stuff... It would be greatly appreciated... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I can do this using the rocket lauchner explosion and an emenemy.  IF u want to know tell me.

Yes, you can do it with the rocket and an enemy.
That's explained in my tutorial. But then the explosion
is dependent on the rocket, and not the object.
There is another way you can do it, where the range of
the explosion is dependent on the exploding object
itself. I will post a tutorial on that as soon as the
Tower is released. This will be a feature in the
Tower.<br>Paal.

Hi,<br>Please tell me how to luke!<br><br>James

The best way is to make the explosion dependent
on the explodable object itself. Otherwise the
object is not really explodable, only the
missile.<br><br>You will achieve a similar effect though by giving
the missile explosion a range. Then all nearby
enemies will go, also when an ordinary enemy is hit,
which can be a good effect in itself. But then you must
have a missile launcher to create the
effect.<br><br>This is described in my tutorial but so far I only
show how to make the range and not how to make the
damage done relative to the distance. But that will be
posted too in due time, in my explodable objects
tutorial.<br><br>Best regards, Paal.

This weeks chat is in the Yahoo Club
Chatroom...<br><br>Seems the bytecenter server is having problems now too.
Anyhow, lets try meeting here each week and see if we
have better luck with the Yahoo Chat Room here at the
Club.<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Well, just got back from seeing Tomb Raider, and
was pleasantly surprised.<br><br>Characters:<br>
Angelina Jolene was the perfect match for Lara Croft. Not
only is Jolene nice to look at, but she was (or
perhaps her stunt double) able to pull off some great
Matrixesque/Mission Impossible like moves!<br>Plot:<br> Don't want to
give too much away, but the premise is this: Every
5000 years, all nine planets (what? 9? haven't they
heard of Planet X!?) are in perfect alignment, at such
a time during a solar eclipse, the bearer of the
"key" is able to control time as it were. The only
problem...the key has been split in two pieces and hidden on
opposite sides of the Earth. Enter Lady Croft (as she is
formally called...yes her dad was Lord Richard Croft who
mysteriously disappeared when Lara was a child)and her
opposing archaeologist and the Illuminati for kicks and
the race is on!!!<br>Special Effects/Action:<br> This
movie has plenty of both...at times the action is so
intense that you don't think that you're catching it
all!<br><br>Final opinion:<br> Good movie, worth the price of a
drive-in ticket $8.00, and possible the price for the DVD
when its released.<br><br><br>Caio for
now,<br><br><br>Gray~

Yo,<br>Though i love "Tomb Raider" My self, why talk about it in here? This is a Wolfenstein (3D shooting games) Club, not a Tomb Raider Club!!!!<br><br>James

James,<br>I agree that this is a wolfenstein 3d
shooting game club; however, during chat yesterday
(btw...where were you?:) ) I mentioned to brothertank that I
was going and mentioned writing a review to
post...seeing how he didn't have a problem with it...I went
ahead with it.<br>However, if this pisses everone off,
then I will remove the post and no longer mention Tomb
Raider in this club (although, technically, TR IS a 3d
Shooter!).<br><br>Nuff said,<br><br>Gray~<br><br><br>Ps...my name ain't
YO :D

This new set currently has only 2 new levels (1
and 9 from the 1st episode) but all 60 levels will be
new in the final version. There are some graphics
modifications too. You can get more info and the download from
<a href=http://teamosrwolf3d.homestead.com/index.html target=new>http://teamosrwolf3d.homestead.com/index.html</a>

This club has only 2 rules: no flames and no foul
language.<br>So I don't see any problem.<br><br>Thanks for the
review... if we'll get a chance to see it here in Holland,
I'll give it a go :-)<br><br>Martin.

James...<br><br>While I understand your wanting
to participate or play an active role in this club,
please leave the moderation of what is posted to the
founders of the club. You have your club to moderate and
we have this one (there are 4 founders
here).<br><br>If you'd joined the weekly chat, you would have
known that Tomb Raider (both game and movie) was being
discussed. His post did not violate the rules of the club
(of which there are two). <br><br>Anyhow... Enough
said on that topic.<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Nooooooooooo!<br><br>Your getting it all wrong. I
just though this club was for Wolfenstein and when i
go i the chat room knowone is there so i never get
any chating done.<br><br>I love tomb raider!!!
:)<br><br>James

Hi,<br>Do not take of the message, please talk
about tomb raider again!!! I was a little confused. The
game tomb raider isn't really a 3D Shooter, but it is
if you no what i mean :) I have all 5 of the games
and i'm watching the movie soon!!! As i sad i was a
little confused about the Wolf3d club then tomb raider
walks in! Anyway's keep on talking about tomb
raider!<br><br>James<br><br>P.S Who said your name was YO
????<br><br>:)<br>:@)<br>:D

Yahoo just deleted my membership to the Wolf3D
club, and I can't go back!<br><br>I know why they did
it. It was because one of the messages had the f-word
(and b-word) in it, even though it was a quote (I
can't change what they said!) and I put a dash on the
vowels of the words.<br><br>The first time I posted it
on the club, it deleted my message, so I said
"Hmm...let me see if that's why the message was deleted" and
posted <br>another one with the exact same quote. The
message was deleted, along with my membership, and I
cannot go back!<br><br>Obviously I did not read the
terms of service, but who does read it! The thing takes
an hour to read!<br><br>Anyway, I'm thinking of
going by a different name. More on that later.

Actually, I have a feeling it was nate. In which
case, I said this to him in an e-mail, wherever he
is:<br><br><br>Shame on you, Nate. If you don't like me, at least
e-mail me or post a message on the club telling me that
you're gonna delete my membership if I don't stop. That
was NOT the right way to deal with this. I thought
you LIKED arguing with me. <br><br>Anyway, I resent
anything I said about you being a good leader or anything
like that, just because I am pissed at you right now,
and I'll MAKE YOU'RE LIFE A LIVING HELL. No, just
kidding (except on the not a good leader part).<br><br>I
might rejoin, or I might not, I'll just have to
see.<br><br>Take care. <br><br><br>That's all

Actually, I have a feeling it was nate. In which
case, I said this to him in an e-mail, wherever he
is:<br><br><br>Shame on you, Nate. If you don't like me, at least
e-mail me or post a message on the club telling me that
you're gonna delete my membership if I don't stop. That
was NOT the right way to deal with this. I thought
you LIKED arguing with me. <br><br>Anyway, I resent
anything I said about you being a good leader or anything
like that, just because I am pissed at you right now,
and I'll MAKE YOU'RE LIFE A LIVING HELL. No, just
kidding (except on the not a good leader part).<br><br>I
might rejoin, or I might not, I'll just have to
see.<br><br>Take care. <br><br><br>That's all

I was nate. I just found out that only founders and co-founders can delete members.<br><br>Oh, and sorry for the double post, my modem is too darn slow!

My modem is slow, so I try to make it faster and click on the 'send' button again.<br><br>Oh yeah, I was nate in some alternate reality but then I decided to become a left-wing.

Dude if you knew anything about Yahoo Clubs you would know that Nate DID in fact throw your ass out lol just join in a different name.<br><br>-Kenny

Yup.<br><br>I don't know much about Yahoo Clubs,
so that's why it took me so long to figure
out.<br><br>I thought he liked arguing with me.<br><br>I wonder
why two messages of mine were deleted. Maybe he
didn't want the public to be exposed to the truth. LOL.
I should call him J. Edgar Hoover!

Obviously it was Nate. DDDDDUUUUUHHHH!!!!!!!!<br><br><br>sam

Hi all :)<br><br>I can't speak for Brothertank or
the other founders here, but I think they'd support
me when I say you're all welcome to post here, so
long as you do not discuss either:<br>1.
Politics<br>2. Religion<br><br>If there's any flaming over these
topics, although it's strictly Brothertank's forum, I'll
use my "founder" status to delete 'em! :)<br><br>But,
feel free to discuss anything else (mainly Wolf I
suppose of course :) But other topics, even other games
(so long as they don't dominate the club's theme) are
welcome.<br><br>Take care all :)<br>Steve

Steve,<br><br>You hit the ball on the head...
Exactly... I agree 100%. <br><br>Although I founded the
club, there are 4 founders each with censoring rights.
So feel free to delete those posts that are
offensive, way off topic (ie religion and politics) and if
it means revoking someones access to the club to get
them to stop... by all means... go for it.
<br><br>While I started the club, it's really the members club
as it's the members who make or break a club.
Hopefully, those here will show respect to their fellow
members. Let's make this the number one club.<br><br>Even
myself, yes I was guilty of breaking a club rule, but I
stopped myself after one post. It happens from time to
time... <br><br>So lets discuss wolfenstein, spear of
destiny, blake, C7 and operation bodycount (or some other
games features that might be interesting if ported to
the wolf engine). Hopefully the club will continue to
grow, share ideas and code, and be a great place to
visit. <br><br>Greg <br>BrotherTank

Yup.<br><br>This place's attitude is highly positive, which is very good.

I am uninstalling MSN Messenger from my computer
so you will obviously want to remove me from your
contact lists. I don't use it much anymore as I'm not
around as often as I used to be and well, there's no
point in having it. <br><br>I may keep Yahoo! Messenger
installed for a while but that will most likely go as well.
<br><br>Anyway, I might get both messengers again some day but
for now they're just wasting my space. All my email
addresses (minus my Hotmail passport, of course) are still
the same so if you have something to say, feel free
to send an email along and I'll get back with you
asap.<br><br>Tschuess,<br>-Ian<br>americannightmare@...

what a funky club photo<br>BTW, where the hell do you guys chat at?

Hey guys. I know it's been a while since I last
posted. About around May 23 I lost my internet connection
because my dad was too *busy* and *forgot* to pay the
$143 ISP bill. On Sat. June 16, I finally got back
online.<br><br>And you all missed my 18th birthday June 5.<br><br>Oh
well.<br><br>-Leo<br><br>BTW...I am working on a project of my own.<br><br>And to
also mention ---> id has released the Quake 1
source code...which BTW, I have nicely sitting in my
hdd. :)<br><br>Maybe I could make true 3d sprite
figures...who knows.<br>I could impliment some of the code if
it is compatible.<br><br>Later.<br><br>--END
DOCUMENT--

Hey guys. I know it's been a while since I last
posted. About around May 23 I lost my internet connection
because my dad was too *busy* and *forgot* to pay the
$143 ISP bill. On Sat. June 16, I finally got back
online.<br><br>And you all missed my 18th birthday June 5 :'(
<br><br>Oh well.<br><br>-Leo<br><br>BTW...I am working on a
project of my own.<br><br>And to also mention ---> id
has released the Quake 1 source code...which BTW, I
have nicely sitting in my hdd. :)<br><br>Maybe I could
make true 3d sprite figures...who knows.<br>I could
impliment some of the code if it is
compatible.<br><br>Later.<br><br>--END DOCUMENT--

Hey Leo...they've also realeased Q2's source code!<br>You need a quake editor, Quark is a pretty good one.<br><br>Best of luck<br><br><br>Gray~

Yup Ian MSN Messenger wastes a whole 900kb on your hard drive lol<br><br><br>-Kenny

Uhm, is it just me or does it seem your extent of
posts here is basically just to act like a smart ass?
lol<br><br>Anyway, truth be told I'm tired of the community and just
want to get away. I'll still be here but I don't want
to spend near as much time in it as I do now (and
considering I spend almost no time with it
now...)...lol<br><br>Noone take this personally, I'm just tired of the same
issues coming up in every community. Anyway, either
write me or catch me here.<br><br>-Ian

Ok I thought Half-Life was a damn good game and
then it came to me for no apparent reason. "Hey I can
make wall tiles to suir Wolf3D" So the work began and
it's looking well. Some problems here!! Who has a
working Wolf sound editor?� cause I need one badly :\
Well if you care for more infromation on this just add
me to your list "hoey_and_cheeks@..." i need
a wolfeditor!

Ok must be a newbie....<br><br>Go get flo edit...<br><br>www.wolfnode.de<br><br>-Kenny

I've gots floedit but the problem is that it
doesnt play my digitized sound! Im annoyed at that cause
I cant replace sounds.<br><br>And have any of you
found another game engine with the same flexibility of
Wolf3D but supports more than 256 colors and celing and
floor textures?

You have to convert all sound effects to 6896Hz
8-bit mono.<br><br>Anyways, I play Unreal and Unreal
Tournament which both nicely come with their own editors :)
I can rip all the code, gfx, sfx,music, and meshes
right from the editor itself. <br><br>I have ready
implimented my Unreal gfx in my new Wolf3d project. I have no
name for it yet, but I want it to be better than those
put out by that Bucksnot guy. <br><br>I hate to say
it, but all his Add-ons are crappy, and poor gfx at
that. And he also puts out way too many add-ons, most
seem the same as the last one. <br><br>Sorry, but that
is how I feel.<br><br>Anyways,<br><br>Keep on
Wolfin'<br><br>-Leo

On wolf the only way to get textures on the floor
and ceilings is to do light shading!<br><br>Flo knows
how to do that:<br><br>www.wolfnode.de<br><br>Don't
dis Floedit<br><br>James<br><br>P.S, LEO... John
bucksnort is cool, do not dis him, his games may use the
same codes and gfx, but have you ever made any
games.....? No you lazy something, I also see you are waiting
for TEKKOUDAN?? On the board!! Well stop something
off Ben, cause it u'll only slow him down!!! :)

James, <br>in case you didn't know, Ben isn't working on Tekk anymore he's passed it on to Nayt.<br><br>Gr@y~

Um to the founder that deleted me I'd like to know why the f*ck I did?<br><br>-Kenny

Yup, you can't hear your sounds you have to close Flo-Edit, then open up and play your game...don't ask me why.<br><br><br>-Kenny

I have no idea Kenny... wasn't me. I;ve just read
the messages myself. Haven't really been active the
last few days on the computer as I've been working
extremely long hours (just did 15.5 hours as of this
message and have to be back in in 6 hours... so... ).
<br><br>I'm sure that whichever other founder did it.. had a
reasonable reason why.. but asking "Um to the founder that
deleted me I'd like to know why the f*ck I did" probably
isn't the best choice of words to get a response other
than another delete. <br><br>Have a good one... Hope
to be back in the groove before Saturday...
<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

LOL I wonder why you got deleted...all you did
was smart off a lot and act like a know-it-all in
replies to newbie questions. As a matter of fact, I don't
think you've ever posted a positive message or really
even tried to help anyone out here or support any
efforts to get this club moving. In fact, it sounds as if
you're more attempting to sabotage this club by posting
more smart-ass replies to messages about a game you
don't even like. Kenny, if people see your posts
combined with flames they're not going to even join and
our club is going to get twice as small. Either help
out or get your ass out, enough said.<br><br>And yes,
it was me who deleted you. I'm tired of your
bullsh*t attitude problem. Yeah, you say a lot of 4-letter
words and come up with some catchy little phrases but
the fact remains you're just a 14-year old with a
crap attitude. Get it together or I'll delete you
again. This isn't the Fan Club and things like acting
like a smart-ass are not encouraged at this club.
<br><br>And if you want to start a major flamefest, go right
ahead...keep in mind I and anyone else who finds your messages
offensive and is a founder can delete your messages from
the club along with you if we have to. Not saying we
will, but if you so choose it to be. It's up to you to
get along or get out. <br><br>-Ian

Noooo, he says he MIGHT give it to nate after the next download!!!<br><br>James

Noooo, he says he MIGHT give it to nate after the next download!!!<br><br>James

Noooo, he says he MIGHT give it to nate after the next download!!!<br><br>James

Granted, there are only two rules listed: "No
profane language and no flamefests", but I believe it is
pretty much assumed that anyone with a crap attitude is
not welcome at this club. AP and RW, the two clubs
this club sprouted from, suffered these problems and
it was flaming coupled with bad attitudes that
finally made people say it was time to ditch RealWolfers
and start Die Hard Wolfers. DHW has flourished much,
much better than RW could have ever hoped and it would
have. But as I believe it was spoken about in many DHW
club chats what we wanted the most at this club was a
somewhat friendly club. Your smartass replies are
reminiscent of RW attitude problems which will not be
welcomed here.<br><br>"if anyone's breaking rules it's
you"? Kindly state which rules I've broken and I'll get
back with you with a reply to that. If memory serves
me right, I don't remember flaming or using profane
language or acting smart-assy to anyone beyond you in this
thread. <br><br>Well it's good to see you still like
Wolfenstein...despite you saying "F-ck Wolfenstein/Well I don't like
Wolfenstein a bit anymore" and also saying you were done with
communities beyond the Fan Club. Interesting how you make it
here every time someone posts a message you deem
"newbieish".<br><br>I'm rather enjoying this...you're pretty funny, ya
know. *waiting for the gigantic burst of misspelled
profanities that Kenny has become famous for* LOL<br><br>-Ian
or...perhaps "Mom"?

Granted, there are only two rules listed: "No
profane language and no flamefests", but I believe it is
pretty much assumed that anyone with a crap attitude is
not welcome at this club. AP and RW, the two clubs
this club sprouted from, suffered these problems and
it was flaming coupled with bad attitudes that
finally made people say it was time to ditch RealWolfers
and start Die Hard Wolfers. DHW has flourished much,
much better than RW could have ever hoped and it would
have. But as I believe it was spoken about in many DHW
club chats what we wanted the most at this club was a
somewhat friendly club. Your smartass replies are
reminiscent of RW attitude problems which will not be
welcomed here.<br><br>"if anyone's breaking rules it's
you"? Kindly state which rules I've broken and I'll get
back with you with a reply to that. If memory serves
me right, I don't remember flaming or using profane
language or acting smart-assy to anyone beyond you in this
thread. <br><br>Well it's good to see you still like
Wolfenstein...despite you saying "F-ck Wolfenstein/Well I don't like
Wolfenstein a bit anymore" and also saying you were done with
communities beyond the Fan Club. Interesting how you make it
here every time someone posts a message you deem
"newbieish".<br><br>I'm rather enjoying this...you're pretty funny, ya
know. *waiting for the gigantic burst of misspelled
profanities that Kenny has become famous for* LOL<br><br>-Ian
or...perhaps "Mom"?

Granted, there are only two rules listed: "No
profane language and no flamefests", but I believe it is
pretty much assumed that anyone with a crap attitude is
not welcome at this club. AP and RW, the two clubs
this club sprouted from, suffered these problems and
it was flaming coupled with bad attitudes that
finally made people say it was time to ditch RealWolfers
and start Die Hard Wolfers. DHW has flourished much,
much better than RW could have ever hoped and it would
have. But as I believe it was spoken about in many DHW
club chats what we wanted the most at this club was a
somewhat friendly club. Your smartass replies are
reminiscent of RW attitude problems which will not be
welcomed here.<br><br>"if anyone's breaking rules it's
you"? Kindly state which rules I've broken and I'll get
back with you with a reply to that. If memory serves
me right, I don't remember flaming or using profane
language or acting smart-assy to anyone beyond you in this
thread. <br><br>Well it's good to see you still like
Wolfenstein...despite you saying "F-ck Wolfenstein/Well I don't like
Wolfenstein a bit anymore" and also saying you were done with
communities beyond the Fan Club. Interesting how you make it
here every time someone posts a message you deem
"newbieish".<br><br>I'm rather enjoying this...you're pretty funny, ya
know. *waiting for the gigantic burst of misspelled
profanities that Kenny has become famous for* LOL<br><br>-Ian
or...perhaps "Mom"?

Kenny.... <br><br>Kindly Stop Now. Thanks.
Refering to someone as an idiot is NOT how I see club
members talking to one another. <br><br>Ian was right,
after reading the posts again (in an alert and awake
state of mind) you were being rather negative to the
new persons questions. Yes, that is exactly the kind
of thing that we didn't want brought here from RW.
<br><br>Yes there are two basic rules... No Flames, and no
Foul Language... But I guess you missed reading the
messages where Areyep and I were discussing the subjects
of Politics and Religion as being Taboo Also. In my
post to Steve, I stated quite clearly that members
were to treat others with respect. <br><br>If you need
a complete set of rules as to code of conduct
between members, I'm sure that we can write one up, but I
think truely common sense says "Treat Others As You
Wish to be Treated". <br><br>Nuff Said....
<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Kenny.... <br><br>Kindly Stop Now. Thanks.
Refering to someone as an idiot is NOT how I see club
members talking to one another. <br><br>Ian was right,
after reading the posts again (in an alert and awake
state of mind) you were being rather negative to the
new persons questions. Yes, that is exactly the kind
of thing that we didn't want brought here from RW.
<br><br>Yes there are two basic rules... No Flames, and no
Foul Language... But I guess you missed reading the
messages where Areyep and I were discussing the subjects
of Politics and Religion as being Taboo Also. In my
post to Steve, I stated quite clearly that members
were to treat others with respect. <br><br>If you need
a complete set of rules as to code of conduct
between members, I'm sure that we can write one up, but I
think truely common sense says "Treat Others As You
Wish to be Treated". <br><br>Nuff Said....
<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Hi Cetus808,<br><br>Floedit is the best editor
for importing and exporting the sounds and graphics
into/from the wolfenstein files. It does however have a
bug, which you have stated exactly. It does not play
the actual sounds as it says it will do. <br><br>A
few suggestions:<br><br>Use Floedit to import and
export the sounds (note the position each came from...
ie if it's sound 1 in the original files, I save it
as 0rg1.wav . Then I load the file with something
like cooledit or wavestudio or any sound program. Then
you can play each one, edit/alter them, and re-insert
back into the wolf files with Floedit. Remember that
all sound files must be formated as 6896 hz in mono
mode for the game to use them properly <br>(Anything
you extract from the game will already be in this
format). <br><br>Need more help, Just ask.... I'm sure the
club members will be more than happy to help you with
any problems. <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Ok... Xb... You've had your fun... Give it a rest now please... <br><br>Thanks...<br><br>Greg

I have a few things to say myself. <br><br>Not
too many posts ago, someone had made a comment that
floor textures can be made through the
implementation(spelling?) of light shading...which is not so. If some of
you people have played Blake Stone AOG or Blake Stone
Planet Strike, you might have noticed that there was an
option where you can enable/disable lighting, even when
the lighting was disabled, the floor textures/ceiling
textures were still there. Capstone's Operation: Body
Count and Corridor 7 did not have real floor/ceiling
textures. Those where just light shading. Nothing really
fancy. And you might have also noticed the floor and
ceiling textures in Blake Stone did not 'follow' the
direction in which you looked. Body Count and Corridor 7
textures did.<br><br><---Another
Note---><br><br>Kenny, you are just acting plain retarded. Your pathetic
attitude is annoying and irritating. Of course, you
wouldn't have been kicked in the first place if we didn't
think your attitude was dumb. Although, I was not one
of the founders, and I have no idea what mostly has
been happening lately except for the last few posts
you've
made.<br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>And if you people are interested about what Kenny's
real attitude is can like, go here
-><br>>>>> <a href=http://liquid2k.com/beyond/ target=new>http://liquid2k.com/beyond/</a> <<<< and
then check out the bio's section. Big Poppa K :)
*wink*
*wink*.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>And you know what? You make me laugh when you use
those big four letter words of yours. Geez, I bet it
makes you feel so high and mighty. You know what?
That's just plain dumb. But enough of this. Arguing with
you will only bring me >down< to your
level.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>Say what you will. I don't care, just take some time
and think about your own attitude, and how others
feel about it, and why others are starting to hate
you.<br><br>-Leo<br><br>War is Peace.<br>Freedom is Slavery.<br>Ignorance is
Strength.

I have a few things to say myself. <br><br>Not
too many posts ago, someone had made a comment that
floor textures can be made through the
implementation(spelling?) of light shading...which is not so. If some of
you people have played Blake Stone AOG or Blake Stone
Planet Strike, you might have noticed that there was an
option where you can enable/disable lighting, even when
the lighting was disabled, the floor textures/ceiling
textures were still there. Capstone's Operation: Body
Count and Corridor 7 did not have real floor/ceiling
textures. Those where just light shading. Nothing really
fancy. And you might have also noticed the floor and
ceiling textures in Blake Stone did not 'follow' the
direction in which you looked. Body Count and Corridor 7
textures did.<br><br><---Another
Note---><br><br>Kenny, you are just acting plain retarded. Your pathetic
attitude is annoying and irritating. Of course, you
wouldn't have been kicked in the first place if we didn't
think your attitude was dumb. Although, I was not one
of the founders, and I have no idea what mostly has
been happening lately except for the last few posts
you've
made.<br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>And if you people are interested about what Kenny's
real attitude is can like, go here
-><br>>>>> <a href=http://liquid2k.com/beyond/ target=new>http://liquid2k.com/beyond/</a> <<<< and
then check out the bio's section. Big Poppa K :)
*wink*
*wink*.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>And you know what? You make me laugh when you use
those big four letter words of yours. Geez, I bet it
makes you feel so high and mighty. You know what?
That's just plain dumb. But enough of this. Arguing with
you will only bring me >down< to your
level.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>Say what you will. I don't care, just take some time
and think about your own attitude, and how others
feel about it, and why others are starting to hate
you.<br><br>-Leo<br><br>War is Peace.<br>Freedom is Slavery.<br>Ignorance is
Strength.

I have a few things to say myself. <br><br>Not
too many posts ago, someone had made a comment that
floor textures can be made through the
implementation(spelling?) of light shading...which is not so. If some of
you people have played Blake Stone AOG or Blake Stone
Planet Strike, you might have noticed that there was an
option where you can enable/disable lighting, even when
the lighting was disabled, the floor textures/ceiling
textures were still there. Capstone's Operation: Body
Count and Corridor 7 did not have real floor/ceiling
textures. Those where just light shading. Nothing really
fancy. And you might have also noticed the floor and
ceiling textures in Blake Stone did not 'follow' the
direction in which you looked. Body Count and Corridor 7
textures did.<br><br><---Another
Note---><br><br>Kenny, you are just acting plain retarded. Your pathetic
attitude is annoying and irritating. Of course, you
wouldn't have been kicked in the first place if we didn't
think your attitude was dumb. Although, I was not one
of the founders, and I have no idea what mostly has
been happening lately except for the last few posts
you've
made.<br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>And if you people are interested about what Kenny's
real attitude is can like, go here
-><br>>>>> <a href=http://liquid2k.com/beyond/ target=new>http://liquid2k.com/beyond/</a> <<<< and
then check out the bio's section. Big Poppa K :)
*wink*
*wink*.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>And you know what? You make me laugh when you use
those big four letter words of yours. Geez, I bet it
makes you feel so high and mighty. You know what?
That's just plain dumb. But enough of this. Arguing with
you will only bring me >down< to your
level.<br><br>--------------------------------------------------<br><br>Say what you will. I don't care, just take some time
and think about your own attitude, and how others
feel about it, and why others are starting to hate
you.<br><br>-Leo<br><br>War is Peace.<br>Freedom is Slavery.<br>Ignorance is
Strength.

LOL Leo,<br><br>That isn't my real attitude at all...that's just me making an ass out of myself.<br><br>-Kenny<br><br>PS- I could care less what people think about me in the Wolfenstein community lol

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

Ok so if my attitude isn't what you want it to be
then um usually a good founder will warn the
member...all I got was a <br><br>"Uhm, is it just me or does
it seem your extent of posts here is basically just
to act like a smart ass? lol"<br><br>That "lol" made
me think that you were just playing around...um what
I would understand would be<br><br>"Kenny, the
majority of your posts are meaningless and you're just
being an ass..watch it next time you will be
removed"<br><br>That would be more like it....see I got no warning I
just came back the other day deleted.<br><br>And you
people are way to serious, and that's a sad way to live
a life.<br><br>-Kenny

>   __:_:__<br>>  /(-(O)-)\<br> --=======--<br>///=======\\\<br>\\\=======///<br><br><br>An ASCII version of Brothertank <br>I made when I was bored.<br><br>(C)2001 LeO

>>   __:_:__<br>>>  /(-(O)-)\<br> --=======--<br>///=======\\\<br>\\\=======///<br><br><br>An ASCII version of Brothertank <br>I made when I was bored.<br><br>(C)2001 LeO

I didn't realize it posted the message that many times!<br><br>I thought I was viewing my message before it was posted.<br><br>>B-(<br><br>-Leo

lol it's ok...nice ASCII work.<br><br>-Ian the 22-year old slacker security guard (has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? lol)

Now what the HELL did you ban me for? Sure, Kenny
was being an ass. Thats what you get for letting him
in the club :P<br><br>I told brothertank to bite me.
Hmm, could that be it? BITE ME. I really dont give a
damn how upbeat you are on your tyrannical authority
you have in this club thingy, but I also know that I
didnt break any of your stupid rules. I posted some
pointless messages, but hardassed brothertank couldnt see
past the fact that they broke no rules. So bit me
again, and maybe you should delete a memeber when they
actually do something wrong.

Yes it does.<br><br>-Mobilesuit LeO

Well in that case, Kenny, here's the warning you
so wanted:<br><br>Uhm, stop being a jerk-off and get
along or I'll kick your ass out. <br><br>I could honor
your other posts with replies yet I feel that would
waste far too much precious time I could use doing
something more productive such as removing messages and
deleting your membership. Drop the attitude
sometime.<br><br>Ah yes, one more thing...that's Mr. Slacker 22-Year
Old Security Guard to you. Yep-o, I get paid money to
boss people like you around and annoy people. And as
far as "slacker" goes, I believe you're confusing
that with yourself because I, unlike you, have a life,
lol. I would have thought that you could have at least
retained the fact that name-calling is useless against me,
lol...<br><br>-Ian/Mom/Slacker...the names keep a'comin!

That should fix the repeating posts (deleted all except the last two).<br><br>Cya,<br>-Ian

LOL ok Ian what was I deleted for this time? I just made a suggestion to you founders and I'm deleted....hmmmmm you run this club really good.<br><br>-Kenny

Kenny,<br><br>I'm tired of going round and round
on this one. Just drop it and grow up, stop being a
smart ass and get in line. That's it. <br><br>The
reason you were deleted was because I believed that
you'd start your crap up all over again. You can go
ahead and do so if that's what you came back for or you
can honestly start being a member of this club and
help people out or at least be decent to others. I'm
not going to go on about some lecture about "Be Kind
For Kindness" or whatever but just respect what we're
trying to do. Thank you, I'm done...Greg can handle this
if he wants.<br><br>-Ian

Good Ian I'm glad you're done, because so am I....I'm not even going to argue (hey what a switch) in fact I'm going to leave quietly..(another switch)<br><br>-Kenny

BTW before I split I would like to add one more
thing<br><br>ok first you ASSUMED I broke the rules and now you
AUSSUMED I'd start my crap up agian..seems like you ASSUME
alot so before taking action why don't you discuss it
with another founder first because AUSSUMING doesn't
mean squat.<br><br>Peace out,<br><br>-Kenny

Hello all,<br><br>I've been busy yesterday with
re-designing the TFS homepage(at
<a href=http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/ target=new>http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/</a>). It's done now. I think it looks pretty decent.
And this time, there's no hassle with plugin
installations and so forth. I've been busy with FrontPage 2000
and Claris Homepage(thanks Schabbs) and the result is
uploaded.<br><br>I've tested all file links and so forth, so everything
works. Just go take a look
there!<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/ target=new>http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/</a><br><br>Also, please update your links/bookmarks, as the link
isn't anymore to main.htm, but just to index.htm.
OK?<br><br>Comments are always welcome. Send them to
tvanputten@.... Thanks.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Tristan

Well taking each individual sound was annoying
but I've done it! Then I accidentally deleted my
sound directory >:( but I suppose I could do it all
over again. <br><br>How can you get the maximum color
out of wall tiles without making them look a little
strange and losing their color? There has gots to be a
way!

To avoid the loss of colours when working on new
graphic walls:<br><br>Export a wall, any wall, from the
original vswap file using Floedit. Then, open the graphic
file with your favorite graphic editing program (but
not paint that comes with windows). In the options
somewhere, there should be "Save Palette" ... Select that
option. Now you can open a new graphic window (64 pixels
by 64 pixels) and load the Palette that you just
saved. Save the blank as "Newwall.bmp" ... Then to
create a new wall, just load your "newwall.bmp" file and
it will automatically be in the wolfenstein
palette.<br><br>Hope that helps... <br><br>Greg <br>BrotherTank

Ok I admit I was wrong...we've been friends for a
long time and this is a stupid way to end it. I'm
sorry. It's just the way I am -- a smartass, I can't
help it. Anyway I hope we can get past
this.<br><br>-Kenny

Hi all,<br><br>I haven't been on the net for the
past 5 days, and was quite surprised to see the number
of messages that've been posted in that time! Seems
I've missed a few as some have obviously been
deleted.<br><br>I've read the messages from Kenny and Ian etc, and
just thought I'd give my thoughts.<br><br>After seeing
all the flaming over at the Wolf 3D fan club over
recent weeks, I certainly don't want this club to go the
same way. I have a lot of respect for Ian, and if he
deleted any messages, I have no doubt it would have been
for a good reason. The Wolf "community" is a small
one, and it does us no good if we bag each other over
small issues. Kenny; you have a great Wolf site and I
consider you a great part of the Wolf community. I can't
make any comments about your posts because some have
been deleted. But I think all Ian and the rest of us
are asking is that we refrain from insulting others,
even if it is just intended as a joke (which I'm sure
it was), as some ppl who don't know you may not see
it that way, especially "newbies". We want to
encourage newbies (I was one myself not that long ago)
instead of turn them off. If people have critical
comments (as someone did in one message bagging John
Bucksnort's addons) then they should not post them publicly.
Ppl such as John Bucksnort are the reason the Wolf
community has stayed alive - I hate seeing them cop flak
unfairly like that.<br><br>Anyway, I hope it doesn't seem
we're trying to be too serious. If anything, the
political stuff etc at the Wolf 3d fan club has been
bordering on way too serious recently. Anyone who knows
Ian, Greg, MCS and myself knows we have quite a good
sense of humour - and we can be just as "warped" as
anyone else :)<br><br>As Greg may say: "Ich bin eine
Kuh, kann nicht Sie sehen..." Figure that one out Greg
:)<br><br>Take care all :)<br>Steve

Ian,<br><br>I see you're "dropping out" of the
Wolf community to an extent. Glad it's not entirely :)
I'll have to catch up with you via email soon, it's
been a while! Just wondering mate - are you going to
do anything with Castle Wolfenstein? The new design
was looking very promising.<br><br>Take care
:)<br>Steve

Hi, I just joined this club. I make TC's,
gamemaps, sprites, all of it. I am working on a website
currently, should be up in a few weeks or so.<br><br>PS: If
anyone wants to join my staff of Red Nebula,
reply.<br><br>PSS: If you already have a wolf3d company, and you
want to partner up with Red Nebula, reply. You're
company can focus on one section of the games, and I can
focus on other sections, making a quicker, and better
game. If you help make a game, I'll put you're company
on the title screen, and on the high scores.

Once again, <br><br>It's that time for the weekly chat... <br>The club chat room is open, just scroll down from the "home" page of the club and join the chat.<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Thanks to those that participated in the chat... <br><br>It really brought things into the light... or at least let me see it... <br><br>I'm off for a while...<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Yeah... DIE HARD WOLFERS DIE. DIE AND GO EXTICT WITH FOXERS AND PLATYPUSERS AND DYE YOUR HAIR BLUE LIKE ZARNEL... tod ist mein leben --- DIE!!!!<br><br>some fool

Hi all - sorry about my abrupt exit from the
chat. The message display screen just blanked out as it
sometimes does, but this time, I couldn't get back in.
Hopefully catch you all again soon!<br><br>Take
care,<br>Steve

HMMMM???? Could it be *cough* Chris
Chokan?<br>HMMMM???? Possibly...only person I know of who would call
himself IRONMAN.<br><br>Oops, was I supposed to let the
whole club know who you are?<br><br>-Leo <AKA
Captain_Sideburns [Unreal/UT Fragger]>

Steve, the same thing happened to me. Hope it gets fixed.<br><br>sam

lol, probably....or maybe it's just a phoney choken wannabe--hahaahahah!

There was a yellow key missing on level 6 on the
version that was available until yesterday. The downloads
on both mine and John's sites have now been updated.
For those who already have the set, here is a small
patch containing the updated maps only.
<br><a href=http://www.belowe.com/Newevilup.zip target=new>http://www.belowe.com/Newevilup.zip</a>

Alright. We're did you get my grandmother's picture? <br><br>j/k. :p<br><br>-Leo

I want to replace the chaingun with a
non-automatic gun, that you have to press the 'L' button to
reload it. Anyone know how? If you can't make it to
where you have to press 'L' to load, that's fine. Just
tell me how to make it a non-automatic gun that you
have to wait a few seconds between shots.<br><br>PS:
The gun I'm doing this with will be a Cannon, which
when you're using it, you can turn 360 degrees, but
you can't move forward or backward.

Yeah Selong, but I can't really be as stupid as
that mentalcase Chris Chokan (what's his problem
anyway? is he on drugs?!? whatever he's on I want 10 of
them!! mmm weed); so I'm thinkin of changin' into a
Selong_Chiang imposter... errr, you didn't hear that from me
*tries to erase the last two lines, but those pink
erasers don't work very well on monitors*. god damn
it!... hey I rolled sideways through E5L4 and got 13
seconds fool. :)<br><br>Chris

rrriiiggghhtttt...nice going chris

Hey Sam, James Ingham deleted ALL of our and
Brents messages. I watched AS it was happening, lol...
what a lameoid eh? I managed to save the end
though...<br><br>"Kenny's a pimp poser" -selong_chiang<br><br>"Isn't a 1/2
inch dick big?"- kennyr87<br><br>"Not True Dat"-
xbinteercepter<br><br>"YOU BETRAY US!!!"- one of kenny's sluts<br><br>"My
dick is 100000 times bigger than kenny's"-
xbintercepter<br><br>"shupup brent! I'm a GOD to WOMEN blarg blarg yadda
yadda" - Kenny87<br><br>"I'm an idiot" -
all_muscle_and_no_brain<br><br>"Damn straight you're an idiot, jackass!" -
Chokster77<br><br>"Why don't you two moron just shut the hell up?!?" -
Ironman9000<br><br>"I'm dating Cindy Crawford, oh yeah; they're real
*drools*." - Schabbs<br><br>"BRIANNNN! YOU PIG! *smack*" -
Cindy Crawford<br><br>"I've got 35 chicks, just look at
my pics! And pay no attention to the fact that the
scenery behind me is different than the stuff beind the
girls. We had a uneven rectangle hole in the wall; yeah"
- maximuspig<br><br>"Yeah, well, uhh... my mom
think I'm hot" - tvanputten<br><br>"Righhht.. than you
woke up and realized you're just an idiot B.J. Rowan
wannabbe" - B.J. Rowan<br><br>"I don't have a mom, boo hoo
sob" - Kurt<br><br>"Lemme guess, you and your dad
share mine right?" - XBInterceptor<br><br>"Both of his
dads?!" - Chokster77<br><br>"Kill the commies! DIE BANG
BANG BANG!!!" - Nayt1<br><br>"Nate, put that
butterknife away." - Nayt1's mom<br><br>"This is a coding
club! Please talk about the source code." - James
Ingham<br><br>"SHADDUP!!!" - Everyone<br><br><br>What the future
holds:<br><br>* Chris Chokan retires at 21, and goes on to pursue
a lazy life of doing nothing but chatting on the
internet and being a retard. He never got tired of eating
cereal, either.<br><br>* Brent Ault becomes rock legend
with girls coming out of his ying-yang, his 9 albums
sell over 5 million copies each; and his band goes on
a world tour with Millincolin as their opening
act.<br><br>* Sam Chiang turns into a druggy alcoholic and
lives a happy life as the chef of Yoink Egoth's China
Shop, his new wife (who is a supermodel) gives him
great sex every night.<br><br>* Kenny Riley lives to
the ripe old age of 81, his wolf3dmansion was updated
4 times in the period of 67 years; and he dies a
virgin.<br><br>* Nate Shields becomes owner of Mattel and invents
all sorts of new barbie dolls for the public. He is
offered a job making G.I. Joe's, but has declined due to
a fear of plastic guns.<br><br>* Tristan Van Putten
grows up to be a computer programmer, and than is found
guilty of copyright infringement on 15 court appeals and
sentanced to life imprissonment. After his 25 year jail
sentance, he is assainated by a madman only known by the
public as George. <br><br>* At 5:13pm September 14th,
2043; James Ingham remembers that he has actually made
a club; than decides to delete everyone and he is
back to having no friends again.

lol......What's my future hold.

damn, i got deleted from james
code....eeerrgggg!!! Whats with the non-swearing poilcy!!!!! its not
like there r any kids in these clubs...!!! its
seriouly jacked. anyone who agrees with me that swearing
in these clubs is ok say "i" and those who disagree
say "nah..."...or something, just dont delete
me!<br><br>sam

james coding club*

What is really too sad to see is that somebody
obviously don't have enough sense of quality to distinguish
between artistic expressions and mere vulgarities. To
have people post messages with obscenities because
they have no other way of expressing themselves, just
for the case of doing it, or for whatever reason at
all is something I have no intention of being
associated with. So therefor having been made a co founder I
had no choice but to react. The fact that these
messages might have been a lot worse does not change
that.<br>In addition they were posted deliberately against
the club rules, as well as taking up space at the
expense of serious messages.<br>Paal Olstad.

Yo Chris,<br><br>Sorry to hear all of your
messages were deleted. Plus membership. Hey, nice
storyline! But why is Brian dating Cindy Crawford? Wasn't
she my girlfriend in 1507? Yeah, back in Potato War
One!<br><br>Second, my doesn't think I'm hot. She thinks you rule the
planet and she wants to date you. You're hot with all
your muscles. Now, if you don't give me back Cindy
Crawford, I'll torpedoe your house with a stolen U-boat
from a museum and put you in Atlantis with a diet of
only sea-weed and awesomely old "Milky Way" candy bars
which were eaten first by Kaiser Wilhelm I in World War
One. So, you're the one to decide! ;) :)<br><br>Yah,
right. LOL j/k<br><br>Bye now,<br><br>Tristan(the future
programmer in life inprisonment)

Hi folks,<br><br>Haven't posted here in a while. If I can do it, I'll be at the chat this Saturday. Finally!<br>I'm hoping to see you all there.<br><br>Tristan

I must agree with Martin... <br><br>The picture
suits how I feel about a select few of the members who
may or may not be reading this. Yes a few were
removed for breaking the rules of the club, but that's
really not all they achieved. <br><br>You know... I
created this club to get away from the crap that i was
seeing in some of the other wolfenstein clubs. I hoped
that the people who would come here would get along
and work together to keep the spirit of wolfenstein
alive and kicking. <br><br>But, as fate would have
it... Along come those that would destroy. They trash
the club, it's members, break the rules (of which
there are just soo many ... like it's really that hard
to have a conversation without swearing.. come on
guys...) and they drive out those that would like to make
this a better place. <br><br>I have to post this..
it's something MCS wrote to me.. I'll only quote
part... But it really put things into perspective... He
actually put into words what I was feeling. I hope it does
something for you too:<br><br>-------- From MCS
---------------<br><br>"To whom it may concern (and you'll probably know I'm
talking to you):<br>Thanks alot for ruining another
Wolfenstein club. I have some good news for you. <br>You've
reached your goal. This club has come to an end.<br>Those
of you who proved to be really interested in the
Wolf3D game and are able to talk about it in a normal
manner, will get an invitation soon to join the private
"Wolfenstein3D Secret Lair" (an invitation only Yahoo
club).<br>To the rest of you: I wish you all the best. This
club will be deleted as soon as all invitations have
been sent. Until then, you can continue to post your
filthy stuff here. And after deletion, I'm pretty sure
you will find another nice place to destroy. Good
luck and keep up the good work :-( :-(
"<br><br>--------- End Quote -------------<br><br>It really makes
you think now doesn't it... <br><br>Should the club
bite the big one?

It is all too true. Nowhere are you safe from
people who have no common sense, or even a mind to use.
I came here thinking it would be safe from
ignorant, pathetic, loser minded people such a Kenny,
Brent, and whoever else may be involved in their stupid
little games. YOU RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE-THEN YOU REALIZE
WHY YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY FRIENDS. SHAME ON YOU! BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT ELSE? YOU CAN LAUGH AT ME ALL YOU WANT, BUT
THEN AGAIN, I JUST MIGHT HAVE THE LAST LAUGH ON YOU,
WHEN OTHER IDIOTS PISS YOU OFF! THEN YOU WILL KNOW HOW
I, AND THE REST OF THE CLUB FEEL. AND YET, These are
words on a flickering screen.<br><br>IT'S ALL THE SAME.
I see this all the time in Unreal and UT. There are
Aimbot whores, (AIMBOTS give automatic headshots)
cheaters, and spammers, and ruin the whole game for
everyone online. But you know what? IT'S ONLY A GAME,
UNTIL SOMEONE PISSES EVERYONE ELSE OFF.<br><br>Should
this club stay? Yes and no. <br><br>Yes it should stay
because we still have a "faithful" few, and to prove to
these morons that we can last through thick and thin.
<br><br>No, it should not stay because of these idiots who
come here.<br><br>It's not just a game, it's people
who want to have fun playing and modifying it to
their hearts <br>content. So what if its old, it
doesn't matter. I like Wolfenstein because I do. I don't
really have a clue why, I_don't_really_care. <br><br>But
you know what? I have a life too, and I LIVE
IT.<br><br>We've all come here to have a good time and to help
each other out. Sometimes it's not always about
Wolfenstein. BUT WHY RUIN IT FOR US? I BET YOU WOULDN'T LIKE
IT IF WE DID THAT TO YOU HUH? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE
IT???!!! <br><br><br>Brothertank, I apologize for all the
harshness. But sometimes you have to be that way.<br><br>Bye
for now.<br><br>-LEO<br><br>PS- I am not just an
unhappy camper, I am a totally ripped, pissed off,
unhappy camper >:(

James Coding club is already a disaster. Seems Kenny and Brent are ignorant about simple rules they can't follow.<br><br><br>PS. KENNY, WOLF3d MANSION SUCKS.

<EOM>

To Greg, Martin and all others who have made the
conclusion of moving:<br><br>Sorry to hear that the
"flaming" infestation(right spelled?) has also landed here
at the holy DHW. My Club(read: the club I always
visit because it has always been cool). James Coding
Club: same way. Wolf3D Fan Club? Nah. Political
business doesn't concern me. Wolf does! But did you see
the word "wolfenstein" there the last weeks? Nah.
Neither did I. With all words I agree with Greg and
Martin. Every word. I believe that the new club will
finally ban this stuff.<br><br>Again, I'm very sorry to
hear this. I hope I will be invited to the club where
"flaming won't be an option". For I want to discuss Wolf,
not politics or who's good or bad. With everyone.
Anyone. I have strong believes in that new club. Can't
wait to hear where it'll be at.<br><br>Tristan

lol well now you can relax and listen to some
silly rants if you're interested in the way of the
Choksta. :)<br><br>I think the point of writing messages
is to have something original to say and open
peoples mind at the same time, or make them laugh. There
are many people who love wolfenstein and share
interests in other areas too, some people are so
open-minded that they can respond to any message with
something interesting relating to the subject back. Brent
and Sam are those kind of people; but obviously, Paal
is more restricted and opinionated. I'm not being
insulting, there's nothing wrong with being closed minded or
taking stuff seriously; but people are put on Earth to
have fun, and to explore new things. Taking that away
from people just because it defies your morals is like
killing butterflies while they're having sex. If you want
to talk about wolf3d, you can't force people to talk
about it, you have to give us something to talk about.
People like Brent and Sam will end up making creative
wolf3d add-ons and pages in the end, because they have a
wide range of talents; and people like Paal will end
up make add-ons and pages that stick to what they
already have and know is good. Restricted people will
always look at creative people as "obsene", and creative
people will always look at restricted people as
"wannabes". The better method all depends on what type of
person you are. But I think the world is lacking in
creative people, so that will be the end of humanity I
shall support.<br><br>The most logical answer would be
to have two main clubs; a Creative Wolfenstein Club
and Restricted Wolfenstein Club. Creative people will
eventually want to read and post messages in the Restricted
Wolf3d Club of course; so it would have to be moderated
incase the creative people try to enlighten the
restricted people with new ideas for conversation. In which
case, Paal would be a good moderator; but since there
is no standard for wolf3d clubs, we will post our
opinions and ideas along with our wolf3d conversations
wherever we feel like, because every club has a unique set
a visitors; some of which that would benefit from
hearing original conversations, and others that would
look down on it.<br><br>Chris

That was a pretty cool message man. I thought you
were pissed at me or something after I sent you that
email with the strange ways of how to hack into
chokageland, heh. Isn't Cindy Crawford pregnant? That wasn't
YOUR fault was it?! What's Brian gonna think, damn
strawberry flavored durex condoms eh? *shakes his head
dissapointingly*<br><br>Man, if you like playing with Cindy Crawford; you'd
love the wolf3d add-on BarRoom Blitz! There's some
weird bug in level 4 where weird coils transform into
piles of bones as you open the door. Hopefully I can
one day own the biggest Chain Cereal Restauraunt in
the world so I can afford to bail you out of jail;
but if nothing works, i'm sure they'll give you a
computer with the internet in prison so you can continue
your programming breakthroughs for Quake 7 and maybe
get a chance to finish that wolf3d computer animated
disney movie Walter Jr. was telling me so much about
(after seeing your wall graphics).<br><br>tvanputten:
"hey chris, where's your mom?"<br>Ironman9000: "I
don't have a mom, me and my dad share
yours!"<br>Kenny87: "that's the oldest joke in the book,
dweeb!"<br>tvanputten: "no it's not, it's the second oldest... I should
know; I made the book back in 1507!"<br><br>Thanks for
the cool info about your mom *picks Mrs. Van Putten
up and carries her to 27 nice restauraunts*, yeah, I
gotta stock up and enjoy all the food I can before I
get stuck in that god awful Atlantis film... oh and,
can your mom come too?! She was telling me how she
was looking forward to a romantic sea cruise after we
get married and raise our three kids, one of which
we're naming Trisan Van Chokan. hehehe<br><br>Stay cool
dude,<br><br>Chris (the future "rotting pile of dead bones" in 2064)

I disagree completely with your way of defining
creative and restricted. As for the messages that made me
delete members from the coding club, there was nothing
creative about them at all. They were completely
restricted and limited to indecent terms. Period. That sort
of thing has nothing to do with creativity or
imagination, nor does it promise anything for the future. In
fact the history of literature shows that authors that
started out like that did exactly the same thing 50 years
later.<br>In addition, the notion that ANY kind of provocation
is creative, is a cheap myth. (Or that creativity
HAS to be provocative for that matter, though it is
sometimes.) Imagination and creativity shines through and can
be expressed in many different ways. Throwing out
cheap and unimaginative messages is not one of
them.<br>Poet.

I don't even kill flies on my plate if they have sex.<br>Poet.

Hey Poet come to the chat room

LOL well, that was pretty interesting. I enjoyed
hearing your views, you seem to have a really strong
opinions. Lets just say you're right and I'm wrong. I'll
just tell you what startled me about your message and
you can tell me whats wrong with my logic if you want
ok?<br><br>You said they were "completely restricted and limited
to indecent terms". Now, you are aware that people
can use indecent terms to mask the artistic writing
from the average reader on purpose right? There is
even ways to mask indecent terms with methaphors,
which is of course, creative. Like, for example, when I
said: "..driving my Jaguar into the ladies skirts
because they like a powerful engine in top gear", of
course it means, SEX; but it was a sentance deliberately
made to NOT use indect terms (totally opposite to your
theory). And what about when I was using popular terms in
a literal sense, like: "gotta get out the
pancakatizer to be one with the streets yo". It's describing a
man getting paved by a stream roller. So obviously
imagination and creativy does not always SHINE THROUGH lol.
This theory of yours about having the same style in 50
years is only true for those that don't observe their
own style or writing or don't care. If you take the
band Nine Inch Nails, they have 4 albums all of which
are a totally different style of music, singing
structure, words, chorus format, instrumentation,
everything. And he swears quite frequently. If you're
constantly trying to be original in every sense, you can be
an everchanging device like the universe we live
in.<br><br>lol... so what do you think Paal? Was that a really
stupid paragraph? Now I gotta go try beat John
Busknort's record of 22:16 on Spear of Destiny.
:)<br><br>Chris

To talk about or mention sex in a hidden way or
outright is not necessarily indecent, in most cases it's
not. The fact that you yourself calls your "Jaguar"
example indecent proves that you have a stereotypic view
on what is indecent. I didn't really find that
indecent at all, and I had no difficulty in understanding
it or metaphors in general. As for your second
example it is a little obscure to me, English not being
my native language.<br>Now I don't plan to take part
in a "I want the last word" fight. So this and my
two previous messages will do on this topic.<br>Paal
Olstad (Poet).

I just figured out how to compile the source code
for Spear, I got the right version of gamepal.obj and
I understand that right now there is no correct
version of signon.obj which is why some sprites (Trans
and Ubermutant) don't look right in the game (with
the new exe). Does anyone have a correct version of
signon.ob? Please let me know.

By the way, where you one of them. If those not
very creative but still relatively innocent examples
of yours were in there, they must have been part of
message concepts that on the whole, like all of those I
deleted, were base and among other things derogatory to
women.<br>Paal Olstad.

Hey Mrs. Cleo I know I'll be deleted BUT Cleo
Cleo Cleo where the fuck is your site hummmmmmm? Last
time I checked the Wolf3D Mansion didn't SUCK it was
right up there with Mr Lowes....and where is YOUR
Wolfenstein page for which the game you hail
hummmmmmm....that's what I thought. You can bitch,moan, and insult me
when you make your OWN Wolfenstein page now shut the
fuck up you cunt bubble.<br><br>-Kenny

What the fuck is your problem dude...you talk
about people being immature why you chewed out James
because he's 13!!! What kind of shit is that? I'm 14 you
asshole and the Wolfenstein community isn't made for old
ass adults only like you.<br><br>How the hell did
this shit start anyway? Me and Ian had A argument
damnit it happends!!! I acually had some sympothy for
you but you are acting like a child about all of this
-- like you are having some emotional breakdown
about the club. You need to get yourself a life because
the club shouldn't be it. I know you, being the dick
you are, will delete this message but I want you to
read it a few times and then maybe you'll
understand....<br><br>-Kenny

I'd also like to ask why the fuck you tried to give Chris a poll asking if James was "gay" that's the most childish thing I've seen in a LONG time grow up you dike.<br><br>-Kenny

this club isn't dead by any means just delete me
chris and brent because I won't come back this club can
shape up Greg you are just acting to much ofa pumpous
to see it that way.<br><br>-Kenny<br><br>PS -
changing the club picture would be a start

so how many wolf3d clubs is it that have been
trashed by poeple who talk about non wolf3d topics? I
wonder if there's hope for another Wolf3d Fanclub like
the one DJ Blazkowicz (Dave) created a few years
back. That was the one and only true wolf3d fanclub,
98% of the topics were wolf3d related. Then that one
guy deleted the club just because he didn't like
Dave. After that, all the other wolf3d clubs looked
like this one. It's very sad that all of us wolf3d
fans can't visit a good decent wolf3d
fanclub.<br><br>I agree with Kenny, that pic needs to change, it
has nothing to do with wolf3d/SOD, you're not going
to find it in wolf3d/SOD. So please, think about the
pics you put up before you put them up.

After I was deleted from the wolf3d club, I
posted here a bunch of times. Specifically, the last
time I posted, a little more than two weeks ago, I
said "This club's mood is very positive." Since then,
I've watched it go down the drain.<br><br>I'm not
going to take any sides here because you guys are all
acting pretty surly (with the possible exception of
Chris). You just have to listen to yourself, and pretend
be an outside observer of this club. Isn't it sad
that no Wolfenstein club has been able to hold
together without members and messages that have been
deleted? Personally, I think that if a memeber posts
something you think is offensive, and you're the founder,
you should warn that person. But then again, I don't
like messages that have "Fuckedy fuck fuck asshole
motherfucker" typed all over them.<br><br>It is just my opinion
that all of the founders should take laid-back
approaches to their club. There is always going to be
someone that you think could be "deteriorating the club",
and they might be to a lesser extent, but deleting
them is not the right thing (especially multiple
times. WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU GUYS THINKING?!) Anyway,
if you delete them they can just rejoin and start to
"deteriorate the club" again.<br><br>So what do you do to get
them out of the club? Just embarass them or ruin their
reputation. You remeber when a lot of people were pissed off
at him for "stealing" the 64+ wall tiles thing at
the wolf3d fanclub? He hardly ever posts there again,
and when he does, they are very modest posts. Btw, I
wasn't really mad about the "stealing" of code, but I
was more angry that Tristan didn't do more of the
project himself.<br><br>The last thing I want to say is
directed toward James. And yes, I can critisize him
because I AM 13, not 14 like my profile says (I'm less
than two weeks away from 14, though). Anyway, James, I
could majorly flame you about how I think that beta map
of Project : Verdammt was extermely bad, but I'm
not, because that wouldn't do anything. What I'm going
to say is that deleting all messages that are "off
topic" is just going to piss off people who just want to
have fun. And don't say the club is supposed to be
serious because there's no other reason to play
Wolfenstein than to have fun.<br><br>p.s. I WILL be at the
chat tommorow.

I was talking about Tristan in the fourth paragraph, if it was not already obvious.

Ruin a reputation? Well if you're like me you
shouldn't care what people think of you online because who
cares about your rep online? But see mrlardass whoever
you are if I knew you personally and you tried to
ruin my "repuatation" I would just haul off and beat
the shit out of you...anyway that's not my point see
the way to get someone out of the club is ignore
them...most of the time they will leave...anyway
later.<br><br>-Kenny

Kenny,Kenny,Kenny, are you so blinded to the fact
that I don't need a site to 'hail' Wolfenstein? Why
should I? I don't need to waste someone's elses hard
drive space because about 1000 other people are
building a site about the same general thing. I don't want
to build a site that is like everyone elses. There
are only a few out there that I can make exceptions
because they work hard on it, like Mr. Lowe.<br><br>Oh,
and Barry Christain is a loser? You say he has stolen
graphics and stolen text? WELL, what about all that 'news'
you post on your site? Hmm, I think you stole it from
Mr. Lowe's site. Why? BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE SAME
EXACT WORDING AND SAME GRAPHIC PICS FOUND ON HIS SITE.
<br><br>Oh, your insults really spin my head! Geez what the
heck is a 'cunt bubble' anyway? Is that some new form
of insult? And a brilliant use of the "f" word.
*clap* *clap* I could never, ever be more creative than
you can.<br><br>-Leo

I'd also like to ask why the fuck you tried to
give Chris a poll asking if James was "gay" that's the
most childish thing I've seen in a LONG time grow up
you dike.<br><br>-Kenny <br><br>I never did any such
thing. I never said anything about James and his sexual
orientation. <br><br>Your use of name calling and the like
just goes to prove my point that there are those who
would like to destroy or bring down anything that
others try to achieve. You are one of those people
Kenny. <br><br>This thread is ended. I will not respond
to your inacurate accounts of what anyone said or
didn't say or however you wish to twist the words that
people use.

This is the kind of sh*t I really don't
appreciate. I spend a about an hour writing an honest
message, and it is immedietly flamed by The Original Mr.
Flame (aka Kenny).<br><br>The "ruining a reputation"
thing was just a sugestion on people who repetedely
flame in the club. The person with the "ruined
reputation" may not care about what other people think, but
to get anywhere, you have to make friends, so it
would actually be more severe than just deleting the
person's membership. <br><br>And I know you guys will pay
absolutely no attention to my posts, unless I post something
provocative. What really pisses me off is when I post
something at least semi-thoughtful, people ignore it while
Kenny's "I'll beat the shit out of you" posts are replied
to all of the time. <br><br>This club may continue
the spiral downward, but if you just listen to what
I'm saying, it will help you in the long run. And
please just ignore Kenny, because althoughs he's pretty
cool, he must be extremely short-tempered.<br><br>Oh
well, that's my two cents.

It may sound kind of odd that I acted like I
hated Kenny at the beginning of the message, and then
said he is pretty cool at the end.<br><br>The truth
is, I don't hate Kenny. I just wish he would stop the
flaming, and think before he posts.

Why have I been banned from James Coding Club?

Your posts are being read... <br><br>As for
responding to Kiddies and not yours... <br><br>Didn't know I
had to respond when someone was sticking up for the
club and it's members.. <br><br>Thanks to those who
do... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Well you have no site then you have no reason to diss my site...and before you bitch about my news ask Mr Lowe I have permission to use some of his news...Barry didn't even ASK anyone.<br><br>-Kenny

Yes I am but this is just stupid this club isn't
dead it's far away from that I think the only way to
save it is to drop all the shit and leave the flames
behind and start getting back in the Wolfenstein topic,
but if you want to ruin the club be my guest I could
care less.<br><br>-Kenny

I don't know. I didn't know you were banned.

Because seems like Poet throws people out if they make one post off topic of the source code.<br><br>-Kenny

Read my last message before jumping to conclusions.<br>Poet.

Ok here it is my apology accept it or
don't.<br><br>I know I have a short temper and I need to get that
in control. Anyway I want to say I'm sorry to anyone
I insulted, yes even Leo..but formost to Greg. I
HAVE been acting like an asshole and because of it
this club may be deleted. I would like me and everyone
to drop the shit along with the flames and get back
on topic. <br><br>Thanks,<br><br>-Kenny

I don't know about the rest of this club, but I accept your apology.

Btw, this is a message that was my first post
here, and I think it applies to now, if you take out
the part about
Tcs:<br><br><a href=http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/diehardwolfers/bbs?action=m&tid=diehardwolfers&sid=1600053336&mid=309 target=new>http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/diehardwolfers/bbs?action=m&tid=diehardwol
fers&sid=1600053336&mid=309</a>

Thanks Kenny... Appology Accepted... <br><br>That
does alot for my view of you and the others. <br>Seems
like someone was out to destroy the club by telling
everyone that I was doing these things. <br><br>I know who
it was... And yes James... I know what you've done.
<br><br>This club will only die if the members believe the
vile rumours that have been said about me. If you've
heard someone say I've said something... Ask me
first... I'll be more than happy to answer any rumour or
lie started about me. <br><br>The reason I say this
is if I have something to say about someone, I post
it or say it in public. I'll let you know exactly
how I feel or what I think. <br><br>For those that
would just believe the negative (and no I'm not saying
I'm perfect).. Those are the people that need to
reconsider their participation in ANY club. <br><br>Greg
<br>BrotherTank<br><br>PS: James is doing this because he threatened me in
last weeks chat in a private message. I screen
captured it and deleted him from the club. He then came
back into the club as BrotherTank2 and was promptly
deleted again... <br>What he did after that.. I'll leave
it to Kenny to explain... He knows my side of things
now.. and has seen the screen capture to prove it..

Hi all,<br><br>I think the real problem here is
that people have been having problems at other clubs,
and have allowed them to spill over into this club. I
don't really care about who deleted who over at James'
coding club, or at the Wolf 3D fan club, or who insulted
who. But it is a little annoying having people coming
here to vent their frustrations when the problems
didn't start here.<br><br>Have a look at the last 20
posts or so, and ask yourself - is this really what
you'd like to read in a Wolf fan club? No, of course it
isn't! I try to get on with everyone, and I'd hope that
everyone else here will do the same. Doesn't matter if
you're 12 or 80 or in between (like me), age is no
barrier. And of course, I can expect the younger ones to
carry on with some crazy stuff on the odd occasion -
after all, one of my best mates is my 15 year old son -
so it's not that kind of thing I'm talking about.
It's the silly accusations (many of which are grossly
inaccurate) that aren't necessary. One of the targets has
been Greg Foley (brothertank) whom I consider to be a
good online friend, yet all he's doing is trying to
deter people from carrying the negativity that has
unfortunately occurred in some areas of other clubs over to
here. Perhaps some may disagree with the way he's dealt
with some of this, but I think it would be worse if
he'd just ignored it altogether.<br><br>Anyway, let's
just put all of this behind us if we can. I've found
that working together (as MCS and I have been)
produces the best results - and it's a lot more enjoyable
that way too, believe me :)<br><br>Oh, and Kenny, as
to your apology - a lot of ppl don't have the guts
to even say that they're sorry, so well done there
mate - it's a good start to trying to get everyone to
put their differences behind them.<br><br>Take care
all :)<br>Steve

Yes, I am sorry for saying some pretty rough stuff on you Kenny, and Brent. <br><br>That's all. I am outta here. Time to frag someone's rump on Unreal.<br><br>-Leo

Ok, i can't stand this anymore...i've been
deleted from your club two times. Therefore, I'm never
going to join again, but your club still sucks and i'm
still NOT going to apologize. <br>Just don't delete me
from this club since i havent done any harm.
<br><br>But that doesnt mean I'm not going to change my
additude, no one oders me to change it...no one! I'll just
becareful next time.<br><br>sam

Very well put Steve... <br><br>I don't care what
goes on at the other clubs either. If they wish to
delete their members that is their choice, but I
certainly don't want it spilling into this club. <br><br>As
for the recent set of accusations... They are all
bogus. James was removed from this club because he was
asked to stop with the PM's he was sending me. He
wouldn't. It was NOT the first time he did it... It was
about the 10th time and after asking that it stop, I
stated that if his actions didn't stop he would be
removed. He then Threatened me. That was the last straw.
He was removed. He then joined as brothertank2 and
continued his bashing of the club. He was promptly deleted
again. <br><br>He then goes onto his Web site and his
club saying how bad this place is. He then starts the
knives turning and keeping up with his threat to get me.
See the club photo's for the proof.<br><br>It just so
happened that someone started a poll on the web about
whether or not James and crew were gay. I had nothing to
do with it and I do mean NOTHING! But good ol' James
figgures it was me and proceeds to tell others that I was
out to get him. <br><br>That is so far from the truth
it's rediculous! <br><br>Theory 1: James masterminded
this whole thing including starting the poll himself
so as to ruin this club and the reputations of it's
members.<br><br>Theory 2: Someone else started the poll, and it fell
right into James' plans to "get me" and has used it in
such a way that the members of this club are fighting.
He then posts in his club about not wanting people
to fill his message board with crap and have it look
like the DHW club. <br><br>I think it's probably
Theory 2. <br><br>James, I'm sure, will be reading this.
<br><br>James was deleted for not respecting Club Members and
for threatening a founder. It wasn't because of one
private message... It was because of many and the threat
being the last one. Is he welcome back as a club
member? Anytime he can cut the crap and appologizes to
you all for his actions. <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Hopefully, if members haven't been turned off of
Wolfenstein and this community people will attend the chat.
<br><br>When is it... Same as
usual...<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm - Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific
Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am - Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New Zealand<br><br>These times are the same
time but in different time zones. I usually am in the
room about 1 hour before the start time in my timezone
(Eastern Canada/US).<br><br>I hope to see everyone
there... as Everyone is welcome. And don't be scared away
by those of us who like to talk code...
<br><br>Tonight's Topic: The future of DHW! Current and past
TC/Addon's, maps, levels and anything else you'd like to chat
about. I'm all for free speach but remember you don't
have to swear to get your point across. <br><br>Hope
to see you all there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

If James went that far, and I know this goes
aginst what I've said, maybe it was a good idea to
delete him. I think this is just a major case of (sorry
for swearing) assholism on James' part (if that is a
word). And if James wants to act that way, he will get
NO respect form me.<br><br>I was more mad at how you
kept deleting Brent and Kenny. But that was the past,
and we don't need to talk about it anymore. I'm very
glad this all came together nicely.<br><br>See all of
you at the chat!

Dude did you not read all the messages? STOP POSTING YOUR COMPLAINTS ABOUT OTHER CLUBS HERE!<br><br><br>-Kenny

Dude did YOU not read all the messages? STOP POSTING YOUR INSULTS OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE!<br><br>lol.

The Room is open... <br><br>Just scroll down and enter...

I just figured out how to compile the source code
for Spear, I got the right version of gamepal.obj and
I understand that right now there is no correct
version of signon.obj which is why some sprites (Trans
and Ubermutant) don't look right in the game (with
the new exe). Does anyone have a correct version of
signon.ob? Please let me know.

Hey Ryan, that's cool how you actually compiled
the source for Spear. You can actually alter the
color pallete in signon.obj yourself with a hex editor;
me and Dla_one did it for Tekkodaun. The charaters
in the file are actually clusters of 3 that
represent the amounts of Red, Green, and Blue that are
mixed to make every individual color. Instead of using
all 256 shades of each color, it rounds them off to
4; thats why you only see numbers up to 63 (or 3F in
hex. All you have to do is change the "misplaced"
colours around to what they're supposed to be.
:)<br><br>"Geeze, I always thought Chokage was a Spear game in
disquise." - DJ Blazkowitz<br><br>Chris

Actually, SIGNON.OBJ has nothing to do with the
colors in the game. SIGNON.OBJ handles the opening
screen (with the memory and the hardware indicators).
The sprite colors are handled through GAMEPAL.OBJ. I
managed to extract the Spear palette out of the original
SPEAR.EXE a few months ago. Nowadays, this is no longer
necessary, just download the Wolf3d palette tools from
DarkOne's website (<a href=http://wolfgl.narod.ru/ target=new>http://wolfgl.narod.ru/</a>). If you have
the right palette, some sprites will still look
crappy in FloEdit, but they look OK in the
game.<br><br>Martin.

Right on. Did you guys go to the chat on Saturday, how many people showed up?<br><br>Chris

Hi All,<br><br>I was bored again this morning so
I gave TFS Online again a new facelift. All what's
finished now is the layout, but I'll get there. Expect the
new one up tomorrow!<br><br>Meanwhile, check out the
screenshot of it
here:<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/SITE.gif target=new>http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/SITE.gif</a><br><br>Tristan

Yes Chris, we did. During the time I was there,
about 8 people showed up. Besides me there was
Brothertank, AReyeP, Quinnsey, Madtux42, MrLard2000man and
Ryans42, if memory serves. I quit about 2.30 am my time
though, because I ran out of La Chouffe
:-)<br><br>Martin.

By next week I will have a beta up and running
for sorcerers wrath!!! Source code is done thats
right all done. The gfx levels and sounds are all that
is left:-). Gfx meaning objs and some walls
characters are all done levels will consist of 2 for the
beta version.

That's good news, Luke. I'm looking forward to
it.<br><br>P.S. Next time you use my tutorials on your website,
at least take the trouble to review the text. The
line "see my previous post" is still in there.

Thanks for everyone's responses. The url you gave
me didn't work though. So the signon.obj is what the
opening screen is. I never would've guessed. Just let me
know what I should do to get to get those applications
from the site, I don't know if anyone else could get
to the site, but I can't.

Well, I checked the URL again and it's working
fine here. Please try again... if you're still having
trouble downloading the tools, leave another msg with
your email address and I'll send them to you, if you
like.<br><br>MCS.

I tried it again. I should've said this last
night but when I opened it, I it would load that banner
at the top then I'd get a message "Internet Explorer
could not open the Internet site
<a href=http://www.wolfgl.narod.ru/. target=new>http://www.wolfgl.narod.ru/.</a> Operation aborted" So I know it's the right URL
but apparently I can't open it.

Happy day of the Wolf everybody! <br><br>Chris
and I wrote a quiz for Wolfenstein to test you
knowledge, which should be up on his page anytime soon (I'll
tell you guys when it's up). I'm probably also gonna
post a review of WolfenDoom later today.

<a href=http://angelfire.com/id/choksta/survey.html target=new>http://angelfire.com/id/choksta/survey.html</a><br><br>Hope you like it!

Man, this Wolfenstein Trivia of yours is gonna be
exciting! You really have to know your levels and storyline
for some of these questions, and I know quite a few
people who are masters in that kind of stuff. It will be
fun to see who will win, because almost everyone in
this club has a wide range of Wolfenstein
smarts.<br><br>If you want to play along, come join us at
<a href=http://come.to/chokage target=new>http://come.to/chokage</a> and support the tradition of "Day of the Wolf".
And if you have any other ideas for celebration, be
sure to mention them in the "Coffee Break" section of
the Trivia. :)<br><br>Chris

Hey Chris! It's the 500th post!<br><br>Anyway, the two posts are for the same trivia.

Yeah man, I bet you guys noticed that we just
passed 3000 on wolf3dfanclub too! I like the idea of
having so many wolf3d clubs, it's seems the topics are
more spread out and not ignored as much this way.
Hopefully we'll be able to get past 4000 like in the
original wolf3dclub (that got deleted). Wolfenstein, we
have come a long way baby...<br><br>Chris

MCS, go ahead and send me those files at ryans32@...

Make that, ryans42@...

Consider it done :-)<br><br>MCS

My beta for sorcerers wrath is finally complete!!!

No posts in a few days...Oh
well...<br><br>Anyway, did we not have the chat Saturday because Yahoo
was acting weird, or because we weren't having one in
the first place? I was really looking foward to
it...<br><br>...sigh...<br><br>Oh, and also, remeber to take The Wolf3d quiz
at:<br><br><a href=http://www.angelfire.com/id/choksta/survey.html target=new>http://www.angelfire.com/id/choksta/survey.html</a><br><br>Well, I'm out...

Wolfenstein 3d fanclub is dead too. Oh well,
thanks for the times on Episode 5 Greg. I'm having a
competition for racing through the entire game, it will be
crazay. heheh I'm drunk *walks into a wall*... WATCH
WHERE YOU'RE GOING, STUPID WALL!!!<br><br>Chris

I was waiting for the chat on Saturday too but no one came... Strange

Sorry Guys... <br><br>I had to DJ a wedding...
did the dinner music and the works... so I was gone
by about 2pm my time and wasn't able to do the chat
thing. I hoped that everyone else would have shown up
and it looks like some of you did, just you missed
each other. <br><br>I'll be around this weekend. So we
can do it again then.
<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank<br><br>PS> It's good to see that the messages are back to
normal and that the spirit of the members has returned
to helping those that need it... <br><br>Keep it
up... <br><br>Greg

Released today check my site or mr.lowes for it.  Its only beta so some things are alittle out of wack lol....1 level beta with lots of features

You must have been lucky quinnsey, because Me and
Jack were trying to get onto the chat and yahoo clubs
weren't working correctly. Hopefully we can all be here
this week for one really cool wolfchat. So boy_toy,
you're from Winnepeg? That rocks. Me and Greg are fron
Ontario. I'll check out your game after I play Dungeon
Cephelis. :)<br><br>Chris

That's why I couldn't find "Sorcerer's Wrath" on your site yesterday - you hadn't actually posted it yet :)  Looking forward to seeing it Luke - I'm off to download the beta now!

<a href=http://members.tripod.com/boytoy31/my_project.htm target=new>http://members.tripod.com/boytoy31/my_project.htm</a>

lol nice index page. Must have taken the wrong
teleport in Sorcerers Wrath when it brought me the da
eastside crips yo... and London she be true to the purple
because eh we mix em blue and spill some red and thats ay
diggedy recipe for yer cookin momma to be down wit da
hood in mua Manitoba groove from dang stylin'
b-witches evwewhere fomo.<br><br>Chris

Yes, I posted it and there's a link, plus a pic,  on my News Page at <a href=http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html target=new>http://www.belowe.demon.co.uk/index.html</a><br><br>It'll be on my main page in a day or so.

Yep.. Once again it's Saturday... and the day
that we hold the weekly Die Hard Wolfers
Chat.<br>Hopefully, Yahoo Chat will be working properly today and
many members will be attending (Don't I sound
optimistic?).<br><br>Anyhow... the times are as usual...<br><br>I hope to see
everyone there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Enter the club chatroom as it's that time again this week... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I had a weird idea come to mind last week. I
thought "Hey, no one has ever made a humerous version of
Wolf3d other than Super Chokage." So I came up with the
idea of making my own version as a tribute to the #1
Wolf3d (humerous) TC.<br><br>Now I am working on
it.<br><br>I hope you don't mind Chris, maybe you could help
me with it?<br><br>/B-)<br><br>-Leo

Graphic arts suck? What is that suppose to mean?

It's a joke between the creators of SOD2.... <br><br>Beta Graphics Suck... is the translation... <br>And of course, Steve's way of having a little fun.<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Can someone send me or tell me where to download command and conquer 1?

Your best bet would be to try one of the numerous
abandonware sites. Something
like:<br><a href=http://www.top219.org/abandonware/ target=new>http://www.top219.org/abandonware/</a><br>is a good place to start. That's where you can find
a lot of golden oldies that you can't find anywhere
else these days :)<br><br>Oh, btw, I like the grey
"floating" nasties in Sorcerer's Wrath - spooky
:)<br><br>Steve

As Greg said, it's an in house joke between MCS and myself - my poor attempt at using German to describe some unfinished "beta" graphics I was using!<br><br>Take care :)<br>Steve

Hey Greg,<br><br>Nice survey you posted. Like it.
Now, I wonder who voted that it was bad. Hmm.. Have I
got a clue? I guess it
was..........<br><br>YOU!<br><br>If not, I choke my tongue and haven't said a
word.<br><br>Tristan

Better Start Choking!<br><br>Why is it that you always assume that the bad comes from me Tristan?  Oh well, guess that's life eh?<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Hahahahahaha! Joke! You fell for it! Hehehehehe.
Just kidding bud, nothing wrong. I just wondered if
you would reply. Still friends eh? Oh, one thing -
can I have sugar with my tongue? ;)
j/k<br><br>Tristan

PS: I don't always assume that. I never did. Oh
yeah, once .... not anymore as that's WAY FAR behind me
now.<br><br>Tristan<br><br>PS: Join this:
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/neophyteofwolfenstein target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/neophyteofwolfenstein</a><br><br>:)

And um, could you mail me? I can't find your mail adress anywhere. Have you ever?<br><br>Tristan

hI,<br><br>Remember me? I spoke to you last
night.<br><br>Go and have a look at what i talked him into at
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/jamescodingclub target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/jamescodingclub</a><br><br>I don't want to spoil the surpise, but i suggest
you should have a look at it.<br><br>- Jack Townsend

Hey, somebody else in the community named Jack! Cool!

TVP> Hahahahahaha! Joke! You fell for it!
Hehehehehe. Just kidding bud, nothing wrong. I just wondered
if you would reply. Still friends eh? Oh, one thing
- can I have sugar with my tongue? ;) j/k<br><br>--
End Quote -- <br><br>Not sure what the joke was...
but ok... <br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Yep... I remember... <br><br>Thanks, but it
really doesn't matter... I appreciate what you tried to
get him to do... but he still figgures that it was
me... he truely doesn't believe that I had nothing to
do with any poll... and I certainly didn't fake any
screen shots... what they show is what he typed..
<br><br>His appology, while interesting... ended on a very
sour note... maybe that's just his way.. I don't
know... <br><br>Have a good one... <br><br>Greg
<br>BrotherTank

<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/wolf3deditingclub target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/wolf3deditingclub</a><br><br>This is the club for those of you who are SERIOUS
about editing Wolf3D, whether it be the graphics, the
source code, or whatever. This is also where I'll be
posting my new tutorials, etc. and I hope you all do the
same!

Anyone know what happened to Tristan's club? I know it was still there earlier today, now it's gone.<br><br>-Leo

thats also what im wondering about! what the hell happened?

Dear Greg,<br><br>The joke was(for me) to see
what you would say. A test as how you feel about me
now. But I see you didn't explode into anger, so
that's a good thing.<br><br>Take care,<br><br>Tristan

Dear members,<br><br>As of Neophyte club: I have
no friggin' idea WHO did it, but at least it's back
up. Now it's here:
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/neophytesofwolfenstein target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/neophytesofwolfenstein</a><br><br>Not neophyteofwolfenstein but neophyteSofwolfenstein.
OK? Now, I will be very picky with choosing founders
from now on. And I'll contact Maximuspig about this...
If it's true, I wouldn't want him in. But as of now
I don't have a clue WHO did it, so no offense to
anyone. YET.<br><br>Tristan

First of all tristan, I would like to know how
you can delete a club off the yahoo sever. Why are
you accusing me of deleting you club. Why I would I
want to delete your club I think your an alright
bloke. I would like to get into contact with you so
write me an email. <br>AND I DID NOT DELETE YOUR CLUB.
<br><br>Check ya later<br><br>Daniel or
Pig<br><a href=http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html target=new>http://pigsdomain.com/wolf3d.html</a>

Tristan,<br><br>I don't know if I was made a
founder there or not (to be honest I only visited there
the once as I didn't have a shortcut to it here from
work), but rest assured that if you made me a founder, I
wouldn't delete a club unless I was the one that made it
in the first place.<br><br>Take care,<br>Steve

SOMEONE HAS ONCE AGAIN DELETED NEOPHYTES OF WOLFENSTEIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br><br>GRR.<br><br>-Leo

Well it seems now we've learned a lesson...be
careful who you trust.<br><br>Don't take candy from
strangers and don't give ops to everyone who joins your
club =)<br><br>I could go on and discuss my theories
on who dunnit but I don't think Greg would
appreciate me complaining about another club's problems =) I
will say though that if Tristan puts this club back up
then he should hold off on opping anyone until he has
it straightened out with his other founders. At the
time I rejoined there were only three or four founders
and that included of course Tristan. So one of those
three is obviously your traitor and the same person who
deleted the club the first time around.<br><br>Question
is, which.<br><br>-Ian

Or we could do like I did. I just made an
unlisted club, you can only join by invitation
(obviously).<br><br>Anyways Ian, if you want to join, just send me your email
address. You can reach me at lburbo@...

I dont think maximuspig was the one who deleted the club... I also didnt delete it either. anyway it also couldn't of been anyone who deleted it.. so you can all blame it on yahoo...

Words are coming short for me. I don't have words
for this. Looks like someone <br><br>A) Doesn't agree
with the club(that could be Y!)<br>B) Doesn't agree
with me.<br>C) Made a terrible mistake.<br><br>From
now on, I'll open the club AGAIN at a new adress(We
keep moving dammit! >:( ) and only make founders on
base of trust. No offense to others. I just pick those
who I think can be trused 24:7. That does NOT say the
others aren't reliable. OK?<br><br>New Neophyte will be
at
<a href=http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/neophyteofwolf3d target=new>http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/neophyteofwolf3d</a><br><br>Tristan

ian_franken, you say 'straightened out with his
other founders' by that you must mean the first few
ones. But then you say 'one of those three is obviously
your traitor' That's absurd. Anyone who was a founder
when it was deleted could have done it, and it was
almost ten founders in the second club too. Tristan, I
warned you about having to many founders. I think
whoever did it (unless it was Yahoo for some reason) may
have done it to throw suspicion on someone else.
Reading the kind of insinuations mentioned above may
strengthen that impression.<br>Paal Olstad.

To: Paal, Tristan, and everyone else
involved.<br><br>While I understand your concern and need to find out
who is deleting your club, this clubs message base
isn't the place to do it. <br><br>Sorry, but I think
you would agree that you wouldn't want that club
filled with messages about this club or any other club
for that matter.<br><br>I share your concern about
the deletes, and seeing as only founders can delete a
club, I would be cautious about who was made a
founder.<br><br>This club has 4 - People that I chose specifically
because I felt that they shared the same ideas and goals
I had in mind when I created this club. <br><br>I
hope you solve your quest into who's deleting things,
but for now I ask that you not use this message base
for which to vent about another clubs internal
problems.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

My last message was a reply to ian_franken (a
co-founder of Die Hard Wolfers) who was in fact using this
message board to speculate about who it was who deleted
Neophytes. He indicated that one of the first founders had
done it. Being one of them I had to reply.<br>Paal.

Dear Greg,<br><br>All right. I'll stop. You're right. This is a Wolf3D Club, not the local gossip club! It's done.<br><br>Tristan

Yes, I know. I was tired of all the crap that
flies everywhere, so I made my own Wolf3d club. How
original right? Anyways, You can only join by invitation
only. So if any of you would like to join, post your
email address, or if you feel unsafe about that: send
you email address to my email at
lburbo@...<br><br>Leo<br><br>Definition of Neophyte:<br>1. Beginner or a novice.<br>2. A
new convert to a religion or belief, etc; proselyte.

Paal,<br><br>Actually, I had no idea that more
than 3 founders were created since my joining since
I'd joined some time in the afternoon that day and
came back the next day to see it deleted. Under normal
circumstances I would have thought that there wouldn't have
been any more founders than what there were
considering that the club had been deleted once by someone
else.<br><br>Tell me I'm assuming or whatever but at almost any
other club they wouldn't make 6 or 7 people founders
overnight...especially since one of those people may have deleted the
club the first time around...<br><br>Anyway enough of
this at this club.<br><br>-Ian

For those wishing to attend the chat, we are over
on the bytecenter irc server. You need a chat
program like mIRC (<a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a>) and add the
server as www.bytecenter.com port 6667... <br><br>Join
us in the channel "DieHardWolfers"<br><br>Hope to
see you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I have taken oven The Wolf 3D Vault!
NOOOO!<br><br>Seriously, though, I have many ideas for the future of this
page, but if you have suggestions, I'd love to hear
'em! <br><br>You can mail me at
webmaster@... (which has been passed down to me by Barry) or
wolf007jack@...

Dear God, why hast thou forsaken Wolfenstein by
handing it down to MrLard2000Man, thine serpent in the
cesspool of Wolfenstein? *BG* jk<br><br>Anyway, sounds
cool Jack. Best of luck with it...Barry's page was one
of my favorite places to hang out so I hope to see
it become even more successful in the near future. I
hope Barry will be staying with us, though, since I
was a fan of his games.<br><br>-Ian

Hmmm, <br><br>James Ingham's Project Verdammt is
looking interesting, especially the weapon display area
on the new status bar. I've seen something like that
somewhere before, can't quite recall where...<br><br>Not
that it worries me, it doesn't. But seeing as just the
other day I had it pointed out to me by someone that it
bears a striking resemblance to what's being used in
Spear Resurrection, I don't want to have people
emailing me after SOD2's release to query me about this.
So, just for the record, in case in future anyone
tries to accuse me of "stealing" someone else's ideas,
well, point 'em back to this message :)<br><br>Take
care all,<br>Steve

It's me Kenny heh my other kennyr87 account was flood in clubs,mail, ect.. I didn't use anymore so here's my new one? Like it? Good.<br><br>-Kenny

I'm back.... haven't been able to go on internet
the last 9 weeks.....<br>I dun' play that much d2
anymore, now I most play quake1 team forttress.... but i
will start with wolfenstein again... can anyone tell
me where i can get wolf3d, wolfedit and
mapedit?...<br>/Viktor

I DID CHECK MY, uhm, well, '*BLEEPING*'
INBOX...I'M REPLYING AT YOU RIGHT NOW SO GO CHECK YOUR
'BLIPPITY BLEEP' INBOX!!! ;)<br><br>Btw: We can't use
profane language here ;)<br><br>Nice to see you
back.<br><br>-Ian

<EOM>

HEY VIKTOR HOW THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN DOING? I'VE BEEN DIONG FUCKIGN AWESOME!<br><br>uh yeah

<EOM>

Ian had spammed me with angry email when i was
away, and...... i didn't know how to make Ian check his
email and read my replies........ i dunno wh i used
crappy words like that... sorry....<br>oh, damnit, i
always get into flamefests or stuff like that when i
visit yahoo... sorry.....<br>i won't do it again.....

I heard that it was deleted 3 times or so... who did it?, and why?<br>/Viktor

figures. lol.<br><br>-Kenny

Well: i love wolfenstein... but i won't be here tomorrow... and not anymore today.... i will be withmy dad this weekend... but i promise to not leave this time ;)<br>/Viktor

I seriously doubt two emails count as spamming
someone's account, Viktor =) lol<br><br>Anyway, calm
down...noone's going to run up behind you and slap you with a
pig bladder for cussing at Yahoo!...But I might just
for fun ;)<br><br>-Ian

Hi, are we having the chat tonight? I could've
sworn somebody (I think it was brothertank) posted
something about the chat but I couldn't find
it.<br><br>Also, are we using the same server? Because I have
PIRCH, and there is no listed channel named
"DieHardWolfers" on Bytecenter.

Yes.. the chat is on... I'm there with Quinnsey and Jack right at the moment... <br><br>Hope to see more of you there... <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I can't get the chat to work! What to do now?<br><br>Tristan

Not sure what you did or didn't do... but here's
the instructions again:<br><br>Install an IRC Chat
program like mIRC or Pirch..<br>mIRC is available at
<a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a><br>I use Mirc and the following are the instructions
for mIRC.. <br><br>Once it is installed.. Run it..
and it will bring up a window that says: mIRC
Options. Click on the "add" button and add the server for
bytecenter as follows:<br><br>Description: ByteCenter<br>IRC
Server: www.bytecenter.com<br>Port(s): 6667<br>the group
and password settings leave blank...<br>then click
the "Add" button.<br><br>That will take you back to
the options menu... <br>Enter your personal
information into the spaces provided for: Name, E-mail
address, and then choose a nickname that you would like to
be known as, as well as an alternative in case
someone is already online with that nickname.<br><br>Then
all you have to do is click on the: Connect to IRC
Server Button... That will bring you on-line with the
server. Then you can join the channel two ways... first
is by typing:<br><br>/j DieHardWolfers<br><br>and
pressing enter... <br>the second is to click on the
channels Icon up top and it will list the channels
currently on the server. Locate the "DieHardWolfers"
channel and click on it.. <br><br>Hope that Helps...
<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

I am Leo of Borg. Your vswap graphics will be
assimilated, orignality is irrelivent, I will add your
graphics to my own TC, RESISTANCE IS
FUTILE.<br><br><br>-Leo of Borg<br><br>PS. I got really hooked on that
Star Trek Borg thing :)

I am Leo of Borg. Your vswap graphics will be assimilated, orignality is irrelivent, I will add your creativity to my own, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.<br><br><br>-Leo of Borg<br><br>That sounds better. :)

Thanks for the instructions again.... That really helped!<br><br>Now I'll be able to go to the chat. AT last! ;)<br><br>Tristan

Here's a small list of websites that should help
you on your way to a cool
website:<br><br><a href=http://www.freesitetools.com/ target=new>http://www.freesitetools.com/</a><br>I just found this one. Tutorials, services,
graphics, multimedia - you name it. It's all
there!<br><br><a href=http://www.htmlgoodies.com/ target=new>http://www.htmlgoodies.com/</a><br>A really good site with nothing but HTML,
Javascript, CGI, Pearl and what not
else-programming!<br><br>Hope that helps,<br><br>Tristan<br><br>PS: TFS nearing
completion. Some bugs still occur on floor 3, but then...
when that's fixed the game will go online!

Here's a website that should help you on your way
with MIDI:<br><br><a href=http://www2.iicm.edu/Cpub target=new>http://www2.iicm.edu/Cpub</a><br>I just
found this one. A HUGE directory of small programs that
do stuff with MIDI. Check it
out!<br><br><a href=http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/imf.htm target=new>http://www.geocities.com/tvanputten/imf.htm</a><br>Here you find the IMFTOOLS tutorial by me. Comes in
handy, believe me - even how to edit sounds using
this!<br><br>Hope that helps,<br><br>Tristan

For midi making, I recommend Anvil Studio, which is completely free, and can be downloaded from <a href=http://www.anvilstudio.com/ target=new>http://www.anvilstudio.com/</a>

To everyone that has me on their MSN list:<br>I
recently got a virus from a friend of a friend. It sends
itself to everyone on my MSN list and then sends itself
to everyone on their list, etc, etc...<br><br>The
virus comes as PIC1324(1).EXE. The message says: "Want
to see my new pic" OR "Here's my new pic you wanted"
(the message changes) <br><br>After it puts itself in
your registry, and puts itself in the startup list, it
adds a folder called Messenger1324 in drive C:.<br>In
this folder is a little readme which
reads:<br><br>---------------<br>I come in piece. My name is Jerry.<br>The purpose
of me is to spread. I'm not annoying, nor
dangerous.<br><br>How to remove me:<br>1) Click Start, select Run. The
Run dialog box pops up.<br>2) Type: msconfig The
System Configuration Utility pops up.<br>3) Click the
Startup tab at the top. In the list, find MsgSprd,
Messenger, or pic1324, uncheck, press Apply, then press
Ok.<br>4) Restart your computer Or press Ctrl - Alt - Del,
select MsgSprd from the list, then press End
Task.<br><br>You may freely delete the files or the
'C:\Messenger1324' directory.<br>---------------<br><br>Also in the
folder is a text file for everyone on your MSN list that
it spreads to! Nice virus eh?<br> <br>The virus says
that it is harmless and isn't annoying but for those
that get the virus, it can be quite the opposite. It
adds 2kb for everone that it sends itself to (if you
have lots of people on your MSN list it can add up!),
and every time you log on to your computer, it says:
ERROR: Cannot open file.<br><br>At the moment, Scott and
I are creating a virus that will be similar to this
one. We hope to send it to the original sender of the
virus :) we are going to add a stats manager on it so
that we can see how many people it spreads to. Don't
worry if you get it though, it will be less harmless
than the most harmless virus.<br><br>This has been a
warning from me to all those on my MSN list. Heads up.
and DON'T except PIC1324(1).EXE from ANYONE!!

ure lucky its harmless... ive had like 5 virus on my computer before...<br>*nnneeeeeddd aaaa nnnneeewww PPPCCCC!!!!!*

Well I've never had a virus before in all my
years online...I'm totally virus free...NEVER been
tainted...NEVER been touched...<br><br>I might as well walk
around on a dark night in New York with a sign on my
back in that says "Please kill me", lol ;)<br><br>-Ian

You guys are lucky! I get a virus about once every month. It's a good thing my anti-virus is working or I wouldn't be writing this at the moment :P

hey man, ure just like me... <br><br>"MMMMMuuuussstttt gggeeetttt aaaa nnnneewwww cccommmmpppuuutteeerrr!!!!!"

I got a free 30GB Hard Drive (works great), plus
a 4x4x24x CD-RW (for $20, works fine too), tons of
floppy drives, all the cable, the case, the extra HDDs,
Windows 98 discs as far as you can see and of course a
56K modem with nice mods...All in all free except for
the $20 I spent on the CD-RW (OH I'M SOOO IN DEBT!
;). Only things I need: decent Motherboard and
processor and a few megs of RAM and new computer for me
right there. Less than $200. What's stopping me? No
freakin' time :P lol<br><br>I don't need some 500GHz
Pentium 12 with 1,000 GB of RAM...long as it can run
Wolf3D, FloEdit, and a few other FPS games, I'm set
;)<br><br>-Timeless Wonder

OK, stop ure making me jealous... ;) j/k

Achtung Meine Herren, I've just released the demo
of TFS 3.0
at<br><a href=http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/tfsbeta.zip target=new>http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/tfsbeta.zip</a><br><br>It's fully playable, but still contains some bugs.
Please tell<br>me what you think and report bugs at
tvanputten@... .<br><br>Consider this demo a version in the line
of Totengraeber's "Phases".<br>This is, essentially,
Phase I of TFS 3.0 . I didn't want to keep
you<br>people waiting so long for a new version. So I decided
to release this<br>version before it's fully
finished. Feel free to distribute it on your<br>website.
That's allright with me. Really ;) You are even(!)
allowed<br>to use resources of the game(graphics, sounds, the
works). How's that?<br><br>Anyway, I'll be out for 2
weeks, so don't expect me to mail back that<br>early.
OK?<br><br>Sincerely,<br><br>Tristan van
Putten<br><a href=http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/tfsbeta.zip target=new>http://www.wolfenstein3d.co.uk/tfsbeta.zip</a>

Sounds really interesting Leo. A tribute to a
game is way more exciting than an award in my opinion.
If you're still making it, I'm looking forward to
seeing what you enjoy about Chokage; and all the secrets
you can uncover! There's a few other games I like
that are humorous; like BarRoomBlitz, Pots and Pans,
and Superstevenstein. I'm honored that you picked
mine. Have you ever made any funny add-ons? I have
zillions of new ideas, but haven't really taken a stab at
doing much with them yet. Sure, I can help you out with
your Tribute if you want... cheers dude,
:)<br><br>Chris

I can remember some years back I thought about
making an add on based on McDonald's - y'know, Big Macs
as bosses, Ronald himself as the final boss,
Hamburglar etc. Junior Burgers and cheese burgers as
standard enemies, all dying in an explosion of lettuce and
pickles. The sprites would be easy as they'd look much the
same from any angle being that hamburgers are
generally round. Perhaps the player could be Colonel
Sanders...<br><br>Catch ya's all :)<br>Steve

I would e-mail, but I don't know your e-mail
adress.<br><br>Well, I tried the no ammo on a certain level thing, and
it doesn't compile. The compiler said that I was
missing a semi-colon on one line, even though it was
there! So I deleted the no-ammo part, and it now says I
am missing a semi-colon that also is there on some
line of Wl_agent.c! (the break; after case bo_clip:
)<br><br>So, is there something wrong the
compiler?<br><br>Btw, I think I can be there at the chat.<br><br>P.S. I
haven't got the end-level trigger to work correctly
either.

Hi Jack... <br><br>Hmmm... I've missplaced the
text file that I did up for you with the code... At
the chat, send it back to me and I'll fix it up for
you.. not a problem. Should only take a few
minutes..<br><br>As for the end-level trigger.. I'm wondering what
other changes you might have made to the code. We'll
talk at the chat.. <br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

As the title says, it's a weekly thing that we
like to do around here. Members can join the chat and
talk about anything, but some of us do like to talk
code. It's open to everyone, so we hope to see you
there.<br><br>Where is it: <br><br>It's on the ByteCenter Irc Chat
Server<br><br>When is it: <br><br>It's at 5:00pm EDT here in
Canada... the times for the other times zones are as
follows...<br><br>Saturday<br><br>11:00pm - Amsterdam/Rotterdam<br>10:00pm - UK - England,
Ireland, Scotland<br>05:00pm - Eastern
Canada/Us<br>04:00pm - Central Canada/Us<br>02:00pm - Pacific
Canada/Us<br><br>Sunday<br><br>01:00am - Moscow - Russia<br>07:00am - Sydney
Australia<br>09:00am - New
Zealand<br><br>-----------------------------------------------<br><br>How do you get there... You need a chat program like
mIRC or Pirch. mIRC is available from
<a href=http://www.mirc.co.uk target=new>http://www.mirc.co.uk</a> .. Install the chat program and enter the
following information:<br><br>On the options menu, click on
"ADD" and add the server Description "ByteCenter". For
IRC Server type in "www.bytecenter.com" and for Port
use "6667". then Click "ADD" and the server will be
configured... Now on the "Options Menu" enter the rest of the
information required, choosing a nickname for yourself... and
then click on connect. Once you are connected... there
are two ways of getting to the channel... In the
"Status Window" type /J DIEHARDWOLFERES and press
enter... or Click on the channel list icon and then double
click on the channel "DieHardWolfers"<br><br>That's all
there is to getting there... So I hope to see a few of
you there... as well as the regular "DieHards" who
haven't missed a chat.<br><br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Geez, finally people respond to my message
wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back on July 30 :)<br><br>Yeah, I liked yours the
best Chris. BTW could you send/post BarRoomBlitz on
your site for me? Everywhere I go, I can't find an
active working link for the TC. <br><br>I might look to
you for some help on this, so be prepared.<br><br>I
am using some gfx I ripped from the Nintendo using
Nesticle (NES emulator), so it should be kinda weird.
:)<br><br>-Leo

Hey, how long does the chat last?.... I'm usually busy on saturdays and sometimes i get back at 3 or 4 pm, (pacific US time), and i unfortunatley always miss the chat.<br><br>sam

I tried to enter the chat somwhere around 6:30pm CST but I guess it already ended. Either that, or my IRC client is wonky...lol<br><br>-Ian

No, it ended pretty early... I was kinda suprised.

I know this is sorta off topic, but it looks like the Neophytes of Wolf3d club has been deleted yet again. Either that or yahoo is screwing up my computer...

Nope, I got the same message on my comp.
Apparently, someone decided to off the club...again.
<br><br>Oh well...we'll see what Tristan's decision is this
next time around...keep it or leave it dead this
time.<br><br>-Ian

Was it something i said?

Or at least...we can make a start. We need to
determine who were founders common to ALL Neophyte clubs?
When did all the deletions start? Was it when someone
new came to the community or what? Obviously, Tristan
isn't the man, so who is it? We could figure it out if
we tried...<br><br>-Dave

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

Yes, I'm hard at work on my site. I've been
blocked on a layout idea but I think I may have that
solved very soon. Yep, it takes a long time but I figure
a decent site is well worth the wait...and I really
feel CW IV will be one of those better sites (already
runs circles around the previous CW versions!).
Anyway, stick with me as I'm working on it every chance I
get...I've got some overtime coming up but eh, that's what
laptops are for, right ? =)<br><br>I hope to have it out
by the beginning of September, and I'm going to push
for it as much as possible. If it's not out then,
don't worry -- I have not canceled it, simply ran
behind schedule =)<br><br>Anyway, to refresh your
memory: yes, I do have a purpose in this
community!!<br><br>-Ian

or Moi could've said "Mais j'aime Food Club..."
or something that sounds or is spelled similar to
the square of the hypotenuse of pie, which is not
like pi, because apple pies have serrated edges (at
least some of them do...)<br><br>Ahh...Corn
Flakes...The Breakfast of Sad Losers Everywhere...

Just to let you know, I have deleted the last
little tirade of messages. I don't think it's in the
best interest of DHW that you post messages flaming
each other over something that doesn't even concern
this club. <br><br>Who deleted Neophytes... Who cares!
This is the DieHardWolfers Club. <br><br>Now everyone
to neutral corners and play
nice!<br><br>Thanks<br>Greg<br>BrotherTank

Yeah, i tried to advoid it but kenny just started cussing me for no reason. and jack, shut up!

Everyone shutup, I've had enough of this crap.

Calm down, Sam. I was obviously joking, and Kenny is just Kenny, and can be an extreme @$$hole.

Greg mail me at<br><br>webmaster@...<br><br>You said you wanted to talk about something. (Yahoo Messager)<br><br>James<br><br>P.S Please don't delete me..

Bout' time, still the two little ninnies won't stop fighting. Check the latest posts.